The Crypto Beat

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The Crypto Beat episodes

November 12, 2025 Protecting against DeFi hacks and exploits using AI, with Chaos Labs CEO Omer Goldberg
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks were joined by Chaos Labs Founder and CEO Omer Goldberg to discuss how data-driven risk modeling, on-chain oracles, and AI can harden DeFi, from smoothing thin markets to stress-testing stablecoins.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:57 - Omer’s path to crypto
07:36 - What “risk” means in DeFi
11:48 - Oracles to mitigate thin-market volatility
15:02 - Do smart contracts end counterparty risk?
19:24 - Institutions, Ethereum dominance, and security maturity
21:19 - Why stablecoins are surging (and likely to persist)
22:47 - Oracles as the biggest hidden risk
25:34 - Making on-chain data usable
31:56 - DeFi agents and the need for guardrails
35:52 - Today’s stablecoin risks vs algos
39:56 - Wrap-up & sign-off
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Guest links:
Omer Goldberg - https://x.com/omeragoldberg
Chaos Labs - https://x.com/chaoslabs

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41 min
November 11, 2025 The DogeCast: A chat with the team at DogeOS
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Kelvin Sparks tuned in from Tokyo to meet with MyDoge Inc. CEO Jordan Jefferson and Size Chad to discuss DogeOS – the app layer for Dogecoin. The trio unpack Dogecoin’s evolution from joke to mainstream phenomenon, and outline DogeOS’s mission: unlocking real utility and DeFi for idle DOGE while preserving the community’s irreverent spirit.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
02:59 - Why build on Dogecoin: the wallet origin story
06:34 - The eras of Dogecoin (phases 1–3, SNL peak)
09:21 - Inflation, utility, and keeping the joke ethos
13:03 - Balancing culture with ecosystem design
15:30 - Doge culture as the secret sauce
18:18 - Beyond CT: Doge’s mainstream reach
21:27 - Memes, communication, and societal impact
24:04 - Lindy effect: why Doge endures
28:55 - ZK proofs on Dogecoin: scaling & L2s
32:00 - Why Bitcoin devs might build on Doge
34:27 - Challenges building DogeOS
40:06 - Conclusion
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Guest links:
Jordan Jefferson - https://x.com/MyDogeCEOSize
Chad - https://x.com/SizeChad
DogeOS - https://x.com/DogeOS
MyDoge - https://x.com/MyDoge

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42 min
November 10, 2025 The future of DeFi and onchain money markets with Theo Network & Felix Protocol
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks are joined by Theo co-founder TK Kwon and Felix co-founder Charlie to discuss the rapid evolution of DeFi through real-world assets, cross-chain liquidity, and the growing role of institutional capital in on-chain finance.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
04:44 - Product-First vs. Ecosystem-First Chains
06:43 - Challenges and Merits of Product-Led Development
08:06 - Evolving DeFi Metrics: TVL to Utilization
13:22 - Who Uses RWAs and Why They Matter
15:05 - Tokenized Equities and On-Chain Assets
19:02 - Permissioned and Permissionless Systems
22:29 - Onboarding Challenges for RWAs
23:41 - Liquidity and Market Making as the Next Unlock
27:08 - Forecasts for Institutional Growth
28:13 - Regulatory Catalysts
31:14 - Retail-Friendly Chains and Mass Adoption
32:50 - Stablecoin Chains: Innovation or Hype?
34:47 - Closing Remarks

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Guest links:
Charlie - https://x.com/0xBroze
Felix - https://x.com/felixprotocol
TK - https://x.com/kt_nowk
Theo Network - https://x.com/Theo_Network

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36 min
October 27, 2025 Pantera Capital investor on Hyperliquid's USDH, Paradigm's Tempo, and the massive potential of stablecoins
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks are joined by Mason Nystrom, Junior Partner at Pantera, to discuss how stablecoins could be the tech that transforms fintech fails to be more internet blockchain native, what the Hyperliquid USDH bidding war signals for capturing payment flow, and the tokenization of real-world assets including collectibles like Pokemon cards.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:44 - Mason’s origin in crypto
03:35 - Research vs. VC investing
04:46 - The $1T stablecoin thesis
06:31 - Tempo: Stripe/Paradigm’s payments L1
08:55 - Retail upside & neutrality questions
14:18 - Why Stripe self-disrupts
20:12 - Hyperliquid’s USDH bidding war
23:43 - RWAs: tokenized collectibles
28:48 - Launchpads & DeFi platformization
33:08 - SocFi: Pump.fun vs. FriendTech
43:59 - Prediction markets & regulation

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Guest links:
Mason Nystrom - https://x.com/masonnystrom
Pantera - https://x.com/PanteraCapital

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48 min
October 22, 2025 Exploring TON Strategy’s $558 million treasury company with Exec. Chairman Manuel Stotz
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks are joined by Tonstrat Executive Chairman Manuel Stotz to discuss why Telegram’s scale gives TON a unique edge.

The chat hits mini-apps UX, stablecoins/remittances and gaming, U.S. access, and how to manage 80% drawdowns.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:25 - Background
05:24 - Kingsway to Crypto focus
07:31 - Portfolio mix
12:08 - Telegram edge & TON thesis
18:15 - Super-app in the West
20:10 - Regulatory past & decentralization
27:10 - Mini apps vs dApps UX
29:15 - Stablecoins/payments/games
43:55 - Ton Strategy treasury model
49:41 - Risk management & staking yield
59:45 - Premiums, cycles & outlook

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Guest links:
Manuel Stotz - https://x.com/manuelstotz
Ton Strategy Co - https://x.com/tonstrat

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October 21, 2025 Flight3 founders talk Zebu Live, London's revival, and the crypto market downturn
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks are joined by Flight3 founders Joylon and Harry Horsfall to discuss London's crypto scene, Zebu Live and the recent crypto market downturn.

Harry and Joylon explained what goes into making a conference successful, London’s evolving crypto scene, and what to expect from this year’s Zebu Live conference.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - Market Crash Reactions & Risk Lessons
02:50 - DeFi Stress Test: Protocols Held Up
04:16 - IQ Quiz, Humility, FOMO & Recovery Outlook
08:26 - What Actually Happened During The Crash
11:21 - Monad Airdrop and the Airdrop Playbook
14:35 - London Crypto Scene's Revival
16:09 - UK’s Regulatory Status
20:03 - Proposed UK Stablecoin Cap
22:52 - The Future of UK Crypto
25:10 - Zebu Live 2025: Program & Why Attend
27:05 - Curation, Conference Vibes
32:49 - Standout Moments & Conclusion

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Guest links:
Harry Harsfall - ⁠https://x.com/HarryHorsfall_
Joylon Horsfall - https://x.com/0x_styx
Zebu Live - ⁠https://x.com/Zebu_live
Flight3 - https://x.com/Flight3official

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38 min
October 09, 2025 ZKsync co-founder Alex Gluchowski unveils the Atlas upgrade
In this episode of the Crypto Beat, Kelvin Sparks chats with Alex Gluchowski, co-founder and CEO of Matter Labs to discuss the Atlas upgrade, which promises to revolutionize performance and privacy.
They explore zero-knowledge proofs and their role in scaling Ethereum. They also discuss the cypherpunk ethos, technological challenges, and Matter Labs' vision for the future.

OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:31 – Privacy: The New Meta
02:45 – Cypherpunk Roots
04:29 – User Experience of Scaled Privacy
07:24 – Trust Assumptions in Privacy
09:25 – Incorruptible Financial Systems
14:15 – Innovation in Cryptography
19:13 – Rewarding Experiences at Matter Labs
22:01 – Navigating Challenges
24:17 – Introducing the Atlas Upgrade
30:53 – Benefits of Instant Settlement

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Guest links:
Alex Gluchowski - https://x.com/gluk64
Matter Labs - https://x.com/the_matter_labs
ZKsync - https://x.com/zksync

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35 min
September 25, 2025 Unlocking Bitcoin’s full potential with ZK rollups — presented by Goat Network
The Crypto Beat's Co-Host Kelvin Sparks, was joined by GOAT Network Co-Founder and CEO Kevin Liu in Seoul, South Korea on the sidelines of Korea Blockchain Week in this episode sponsored by GOAT Network.
Kevin explains how his team is scaling Bitcoin through a ZK rollup Layer 2 that maintains Bitcoin’s core security while unlocking new use cases.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - Bitcoin ideology and early influences
01:27 - Goat Network’s vision for Bitcoin Layer 2
02:29 - Unlocking Bitcoin’s potential through scalability
03:40 - Evolution from BitVM to GoatBitVM
06:37 - Preserving Bitcoin security in Layer 2 design
09:40 - Trade-offs in building ZK rollups for Bitcoin
11:00 - Lessons learned from Ethereum rollups
13:16 - Yield generation on Bitcoin with Goat Network
16:55 - Balancing sustainability and slashing risk
18:57 - Running a node and sequencer competition
20:09 - Differentiating yield strategies from corporates
22:46 - Opcodes and technical trade-offs
24:02 - Building the Goat Network community
28:31 - Token launch and future of Bitcoin Layer 2

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Guest links:
Kevin Liu - https://x.com/kevinliub
GOAT Network - https://x.com/GOATRollup

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34 min
September 02, 2025 Jito execs explore the impact of the SEC’s liquid staking decision
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland was joined by Jito Co-Founder & CEO Lucas Bruder and Jito Foundation Chief Commercial Officer Thomas Uhm.

In this episode, Tim, Thomas and Lucas discuss the evolving U.S. regulatory stance on crypto, including the SEC’s Project Crypto and rulings on liquid staking, and how innovations like BAM and JitoSOL could unlock institutional adoption, tighter markets, and broader yield opportunities.

OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
01:18 – What is Liquid Staking?
04:00 – SEC's Stance on Liquid Staking
07:23 – Impact on Solana and Ecosystems
12:05 – Institutional Adoption
16:21 – ETFs and Liquid Staking
18:37 – Layer One Announcements
24:11 – Introducing BAM
27:52 – Solana Ecosystem Sentiment
30:21 – Solana vs. Ethereum
33:53 – Future of Blockchains
39:15 – Future Priorities for Jito

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Guest links:
Thomas Uhm - https://x.com/ThomasUhm
Lucas Bruder - https://x.com/buffalu__
Jito - https://x.com/jito_sol
Jito Foundation - https://x.com/JitoFDN

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43 min
August 21, 2025 CoinFund investor breaks down Trump’s crypto executive order and SEC’s Project Crypto
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, and co-host Kelvin Sparks were joined by CoinFund’s Kavan Canekeratne.

In this episode, Tim, Kelvin and Kavan discuss the evolving U.S. regulatory stance on crypto, including the SEC’s Project Crypto and rulings on liquid staking. He explains the rise of perpetuals, tokenized assets, stablecoins, and the competitive dynamics of exchanges, while highlighting risks around leverage, meme coins, and treasury companies. The discussion closes with Ethereum vs. Solana, Bitcoin DeFi, and the growing overlap between crypto and gambling.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:42 - Crypto in 401Ks and U.S. regulatory shifts
03:42 - Roman Storm trial
04:47 - Explosion of perpetuals trading
06:18 - Exchange competition
07:38 - Tokenized stocks and global adoption
11:12 - Risks of leverage and stablecoin clarity
16:30 - Tokenized RWAs
17:32 - Ethereum’s resurgence vs. Solana’s momentum
22:37 - Rollups, UX improvements, and scaling Ethereum
24:48 - Meme coins, NFTs, and evolving adoption cycles
30:32 - Bitcoin DeFi & treasury companies
40:08 - Closing remarks

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Guest links:
Kavan Canekeratne - ⁠https://x.com/kavancane
Coinfund -⁠ https://x.com/coinfund_io

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41 min

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