A VERY special episode! From seaweed, rice, and pickled radish to lunchbox embarrassment and healing after heartbreak, Kevin and Nick make some Korean food, share personal stories, and of course there's some relationship talk. Also, we recap last week's group date! Follow the process from ingredient prep to the final taste test, and stay for an honest discussion about building healthier relationships. Also, Jessica Woo @sulheejessica joins the show to judge our work!

Kimmie sends Nick and Kevin a video that kicks off a debate: is dating supposed to be fun and self-discovering, or does that mindset let good people slip away? From there the guys get into the messy real stuff: what to even call your partner, whether you should change your last name when you get married, why "limerence" isn't the same as love, and how growing up around divorce quietly rewires what we expect from relationships.

In the back half, it's about the emotional labor of showing up for someone: comfort vs. fixing, who leads, vulnerable narcissism, and healing your inner child inside a relationship instead of around it.

This one gets personal, so let us know which side of the debate you're on.

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Nick Cho and Kevin Kreider open up about Asian masculinity, dating, and identity, from growing up feeling ugly for being Asian, to Kevin's shirtless-modeling years at Abercrombie, a regretted plastic surgery, and what it's really like to be typecast as "the sidekick" in Hollywood. Producer Kimmie Chan joins the conversation as the guys break down white normativity, what an "ABG" actually is, how we treat Black people, and whether you should ever Google your date before meeting them. Plus: Nick and Kimmie set up Kevin on a big date tonight!

Someone left a comment asking why Kevin didn't just push her off. So let's talk about it.

Also: Who's the greatest of all time, Jordan or LeBron? Are you sure? The chef who yelled at Nick. An unnatural "natural" bodybuilding career. Nick's viral McDonald's video. The episode we deleted. Nepotism. Homophobia in the 90's. Kevin didn't wanna be a caterer.

And then, does Nick have the question that defines our modern era?

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What begins as Kevin's 43rd birthday celebration becomes a thoughtful conversation about gifts, gratitude and belonging. Kevin and Nick talk about the complicated emotions behind giving and receiving presents, the importance of paying attention to the people we love, and why chosen family can be every bit as meaningful as the family we're born into. The conversation then expands into bigger questions: Why does this podcast exist? Aren't there enough podcasts already? Why does Nick hate science? There's birthday cake, a Korean birthday song, Kevin loses his mind over a trading card, and some insights into the future of this podcast. Thanks for watching. Share your experience in the comments—and let us know what makes a gift truly meaningful to you. Email us at [email protected] or DM us at our Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/dadanddaddyshow

Nick and Kevin get into hot takes this week, and it goes further than either of us expected.

We start with The Odyssey (Kevin sees a men's mental health journey, Nick sees the hero's journey doing quiet damage), get into whether there's any such thing as a good person or a bad person, and end up somewhere genuinely uncomfortable: can you look at a violent man and see any of that in yourself? Kevin shares about a traumatic assault, and Nick is so in love that he starts crying. Literally.

Thank you to Kevin for the honesty in this one.

This episode includes a conversation about sexual assault. If you or someone you know has been affected, support is free and confidential, 24/7: National Sexual Assault Hotline: 1-800-656-HOPE (4673), or text HOPE to 64673, or chat at rainn.org/hotline For men specifically: 1in6.org

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When was the last time you complimented another man? Not "nice shoes, bro," an actual compliment.

This week Kevin and Nick actually try it, and it turns out to be way harder than it sounds. We get into why "pretty" is a gendered word when it doesn't need to be, why guys say "she's ugly" instead of "she's attractive, just not my type," and Nick's theory that a huge amount of male behavior: the avoided eye contact, the man caves inside feminine hobbies, all of it is a fear-response.

Also: WikiFeet, skinny ankles, tight pants, and Nick talked to a real-life nurse about the "nursing is the job that cheats the most" thing from episode 1 and got a shocking response!

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Nick and Kevin take the show outside to a park in west LA, and end up somewhere pretty personal.

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Nick and Kevin take the show out of the studio and into Be Bright Coffee on Melrose, where the conversation goes deep fast. Kevin shares what it's like to finally feel his feelings again after years of numbness, how losing Bling Empire meant losing his identity, and the unexpected place he's found forgiveness and a spiritual path. Nick opens up about extrovert shame, pre-grieving his parents, and the one thing the 4K camera won't let him ignore. Also in this episode: why AA works even if you're not religious, the real reasons Bling Empire ended after three seasons, Nick's legendary cold brew beef, listener questions about losing friends in relationships, and an honest conversation about aging, purpose, and whether either of them would ever get work done. Recorded at Be Bright Coffee, Melrose Ave, Los Angeles. Congrats to Frank and the whole Be Bright team, and keep an eye out for their new Koreatown location. Send us your questions: [email protected]

Nick and Kevin get brutally honest about what they actually needed in past relationships and never asked for, then trace how that shaped who they dated, how much effort they put in, and some surprising choices along the way (yes, including separate beds). From there the conversation moves to male friendship: why adult men are so bad at it, how Hollywood culture poisons it, and how you actually build real friendships when there's no built-in excuse to hang out anymore.

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