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all right everybody Welcome to the DadFit podcast the inaugural episode. Today we're speaking with Daniel I don't know how to pronounce your last name I forgot to ask them oh that's true um almost nobody knows how to pronounce my last name so it's uh Pauline Pauline I would have guessed it yep most people would yeah that makes sense so I don't know who came up with it uh mine's similar I mean it's not about like the Peace Prize but most people say Noble oh I would have said Noble so yeah yeah there we go potato tomato tomato it's whatever yeah all right so well I appreciate you joining me you're out in uh Oregon right yep yep so nice uh kind of on the Washington Oregon border actually like along the Columbia River so nice uh I was born in uh Seattle um oh really I didn't I I don't claim to be a West coaster anymore I only lived there until I was like in kindergarten but yeah came back I'm in New York now said yeah
yeah I'm not a big fan of the area where I grew up um ironically is where I miss being I hated it so much while I was there and I couldn't wait to get up but yeah it's funny how that works I grew up in like Dairy country surrounded by cows and corn and a bunch of fields and yeah on Long Island surrounded by a bunch of [Β __Β ] so like Upstate New York yeah Upstate yeah I miss it I've never been up there in the Middle East but yeah yeah I don't I mean I know we went to Oregon briefly but I don't remember much about it honestly I remember a few things from Washington like coming over a hill near a movie theater and I could see Mount Rainier in the background yeah I remember that as a little kid it probably is always one of the reasons that I love being outdoors in nature we would always go hiking and stuff as well but oh nice it had this little little glimpses of things I remember from yeah there's plenty of that out here so yeah yeah but right now man so let's see here your uh your PR agent approved these uh list of questions that I had said okay
I don't know who that is
go ahead and start with some of these um I guess I mean obviously so this whole podcast is about being a father and fitness um what made you get involved with Fitness and what exactly do you do right now um well I guess there's a few things so like in adulthood right uh which I don't really think much about my childhood uh Fitness stuff because there wasn't really much of any like you know I participated in things but didn't really pursue it um like seriously in any way yeah um yeah actually that I'd say any Pursuit I have of Fitness is actually pretty directly tied to being a father like when I had my first child oh nice uh I was significantly more overweight than I am now probably like 250 something like that you know not like extremely obese but obese and so I was like hey maybe you should start thinking about uh what you're doing with your life you know what are you doing um like are you gonna be able to play with your grandkids and all that kind of stuff like the path you're on probably not right um so yeah cleaned up the diet around then um that was something like my wife and I worked on together right um and started bike commuting all the time that's awesome um actually sold my or extra car at one point just to force me to bike commute as much as possible you know I like it yeah so in the winter and everything uh witch Winters Winters aren't free of snow and stuff here but they're not too bad they're pretty mild um that's good uh so yeah that's that's sort of the beginning of that um which wasn't really taking that very seriously it was just sort of a way to be a little more active than totally sedentary you know sort of the the thing with the other thing with the bike Community was I realized okay I'm when I'm at home I'm just sitting on my couch like zoning out watching TV or whatever and then I get in my car and I sit down when I'm in my car and then I go to work and well look at that I'm just sitting at work too so I am sitting so much of my day so yeah that was just a way to get a little more active um and then I'd say things got a lot more serious with that like I I started finding a lot more joy in
Fitness in general but Endurance Sports specifically um nice let's see so my son was born he's eight now um and then you know like six months after that my wife and I went through a separation and stuff um which was extremely difficult for me for just you know emotionally it was pretty much a wreck um and so it's taken all sorts of really bad uh marriage and financial advice from people friends you know like one of them was hey you know what you need to do since you're getting a divorce and everything is you need to start just buying stuff like you know turn your cash into um assets that you can't split up right so I was like okay cool they're like you know you know what you need to do you need to buy this bike for me so I said you're right I do need to buy this bike from you looks like a nice bike um and I didn't really I didn't really think too much about it you know I it really was like oh yeah it's a nice bike you know why not I like bikes I've been in writings expensive sometimes what's that I was gonna say bikes get so expensive sometimes they do so I mean it was like okay a nice bike it's used you know I'm sure it's a good deal so I did that um yeah I didn't research it before or anything I still don't I still don't know a ton about bikes to be honest yeah what I realize is oh okay this is a time trial bike and sure it's gonna be super silly for me to bike commute on this thing and actually it's kind of silly for me to like ride this around for fun all the time too um so I was like what do you do with this thing um so I you know turns out you do triathlons with that bike and so I said whatever I guess I need to start running and swimming so so it started with the running and um yeah so started with the running did kind of like a couch to 5K thing well I mean I guess first I signed up for the triathlon this must have been and this is probably like April or May all this was happening Triathlon was in September or something uh Sprint you know okay so a short one like and this one's especially has an especially short swim I think it was like a 700 meter swim and you know like a 20K bike and a 5K run Okay so yeah so so the run in the swim both of those it's just like I just need to be able to finish this part of the thing right that's okay about the bike um yeah I did a couch to 5K thing found out that running is hard um yeah took a long time to feel any way good about it uh because I found out that swimming is even harder so um it was kind of a similar approach to the couch to 5K thing for swimming I think it's called zero to sixteen 1600 or 1650 or something it's basically getting you to being able to do a mile um so kind of follow those plans independently of any real structured triathlon training just to be able to complete each leg um and then yeah stuck with it stuck with that for another year
my wife and I kind of mended stuff right stuck with that again for another year and then um yeah and they just kind of kept running after that and just doing a little whole local stuff um so yeah that's how I got into that's how I got into it that's funny it's almost like you uh you've almost like stumbled upon being a triathlete found out what like was mainly for you like oh I mean I might as well train for the so I used the bike properly and you just like oh yeah I guess I'll throw in the running and the swimming I'm committed now so I didn't mean to commit but pretty wild that uh you essentially went from I mean I don't know prior to that but essentially from nothing to like all right I'm training for a triathlon now like most people like let's do a 5k because those everyone does those you can yeah whatever and you're like nah yeah there's three of them simultaneous I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I walked a significant portion of my first 5k uh I've over my first my first Sprint the 5K part like had no idea about pacing right you just push yourself as hard as you can and on the bike and then I was like oh okay feel good for the first mile and then and it was I didn't learn the lesson I did an Olympic the second year and yeah I did not learn that lesson by then either walked a lot of the a lot of the run on that on that race too pleasured it that's a that's a win in my book it's true so crazy yeah the running thing definitely surprised me um I mean I've always been athletic in doing sports and all that kind of stuff but I think I never did like a pure running sport so I never had proper running training they were just always what you mentioned just burn yourself out go as hard as fast as possible and build your endurance that way and it never seemed to work for me I mean I would get physically fit enough for whatever sport I was participating in but I would go like jog with my friends who are Runners and they were just like talking to me the whole time and like yeah you can't talk running like just just a casual jog like I'm dying right now yeah yeah I'm starting out it's there's no such thing as a casual jog I think I mean maybe some people but yeah maybe yeah
so yeah I recently hired a actual proper running endurance specific running coach so I could train the my first marathon and Ultra and stuff and uh he introduced me to I think it's 80 20 or yep um zone two training essentially yeah those are kind of synonymous in my head anyway yeah yeah I mean he made them synonymous in my head as well yeah well the first the first few runs I remember we'd like recap at the end of the week and like dude this is [Β __Β ] easy this is ridiculous I'm basically walking right now and he's like because I had the chest strap on he's like yeah but I can see her heart rate is way too elevated for what you're doing right now I'm like yeah that's because I'm running he's like so then he he explained it all to me and yeah progression like I'm a huge numbers in math geek so like I love seeing the charts and the progressions of watching my heart rate drop while my distance were increasing and speed was increasing like the simultaneous building and decreasing what both of them was mind-blowing actually because of exactly what we had talked about it uh I grew up just like I said just running as hard and fast as I could and yeah yeah the endurance specific training is its own beast and as I'm sure no no yeah no it requires a lot of self-control like yeah I don't know there is it keeps your ego in check I think a lot of this does so that's the key for me uh yeah I don't know that one bothered me I'm still I'm still not good with that one so if I do go out for a casual like zone two run um and I hear someone coming up behind me I invariably know my pace is going to increase like yeah especially if they pass me I'm like oh [Β __Β ] that person I'm definitely not letting them beat me yeah yeah and the thing that helped me is I I just start going okay they have they're on a different workout than I am obviously you know they're doing intervals or something I'm just I'm just doing this is what I'm doing today it's easy it's easy day I've gotten much better though after I did complete the ultra a couple months ago though just because it was very humbling to have 80 year old men constantly passing me yeah every time and they're like all right keep you're doing good yeah thank you yeah it's so it's it honestly is very humbling and it made me uh it is appreciate the endurance athletes just I mean these dudes have been doing it I mean they're 80. yeah I caught up with one of them at the end like man how old are you he's like I'm turning 86 this year seriously you know you you passed me that's I I couldn't even get mad like I said it was very humbling in me uh it changes to my perspective finally I think that a little switch went off in my head like this this is how you do it properly and you have to let go of your ego yeah yeah no it's pretty amazing how that builds over years or it's like can be sustained at that level anyway you know yeah it's uh it's one of the running itself is just a very interesting sport like I said I've never had any proper running specific training to begin with but I'm grateful that I hired a coach because he not only helps me with the zone 2 pacing but he also helped correct my form and I don't like I didn't have any knee issues anymore because I was I was landing on my heels like yeah my whole life because that's how you walk and he's like yeah that's how everyone starts out running but yeah he helps me get more of like a land straight straight times where all the force just checks all the way up through your body instead of just straight to your knees yeah it's a midfoot strike yeah yeah that was nice actually I am one of those weird people uh uh I don't think there's I don't know I walk on my toes and stuff so when I run I actually sort of naturally a forefoot striker nice um yeah it does work but it turns out that also can lead to plantar fasciitis turns out it's one of the factors that can contribute to that so as you also ultimately gotten any symptoms of that yet oh yeah
it turns out that that thing lasts a long time so yeah I think I think I shouldn't have done a marathon last year or at least I should have not trained at the volume I did last year and yeah I just wasn't ready for it I made a few feet weren't anyway yeah and uh yeah that did not did not work out so so I see um I know you do a lot of Fitness related stuff and I also see a lot of your posts on Twitter about finances which is also one of my other passions um oh yeah I don't want to dive into it too much but um just because this one is specifically about dads and fitness but um yeah what's your uh what's your interest with finances like what else do you do besides Fitness related activities uh yeah
I'm pretty interested in the like just the financial Independence kind of part of personal finance specifically like like the fire movement yeah like fire right like just you know getting to the point where your passive income exceeds your annual expenses yeah so those things to me look like how can you lower your expenses and how can you increase your passive income over time right yes it's pretty simple really um and actually I do consider it to be kind of similar to finances or no sorry sorry I consider finances and fitness to be some like there's a lot of analogies yeah they're definitely like it's simple the concepts are simple right like like zone two training it's pretty simple get your heart rate lower than this right when your heart rate goes over that slow down but it requires the self-control to to do that thing right so it's like okay uh
you know some level of self-denial when you want to
you know be lazy not not cook at home go eat out whatever we learned your budget and we're like well how do I make that work and I gotta say well I gotta slow down I gotta it's okay I can make whatever can make TV and J who cares um and then just you know showing up and making Investments every you know every week or whatever um and that that compounds over time similar to how
similar how kind of every like you know any sort of progression with Fitness Works right it's all kind of compounding over time yeah exactly it's like it's a dollar cost averaging and finances is the same with all the little micro tears when you're doing bicep curls like just keep showing up and then it's just gonna grow yeah exactly what you said it's so simple but yeah in practice surprise sublimely difficult I feel like the weird thing is though is with Fitness there's plateaus right you got you're like you work work work and then sometimes like what you're doing just stops working yeah I don't know if that happens with finances
maybe it does but yeah so yeah that's kind of my interest there yeah I'm a big I'm a big Finance guy like I said um a lot of my backgrounds in math and I'm a software engineer so I love spreadsheets and just projections and all those stuff and that definitely directly translates into my fitness I have so many spreadsheets of not only just like diet or nutritional things oh yeah routines that I've built for friends or just stuff that I'm building for myself as well way too much sheets yeah yeah my my Google Drive is pretty full of
a lot of random stuff most of it things I haven't kept up with like I I don't know it's sometimes I don't have the discipline to keep collecting the data which is um I don't know that's kind of what I like about the era we live in is with like Strava and stuff you can you know it's all kind of there and if you want it to go look at it analyze it it's all it's all there um you don't really have to set up a whole your whole own system around it or whatever thankfully weight lifting you kind of have to seems like so I know uh when we first started interacting on Twitter I think one of the very first things I saw or commented on that you had was your uh your analytics software and I remember I mentioned I used training Peaks I don't remember oh yeah what was the name of the one that you used uh intervals.icu yeah yeah
I think it's pretty similar um sure it's the exact same thing just different it seems like it is yeah um and I don't know the thing I like about it yeah well I mean you know I'll reveal myself as being kind of cheap right so like it's a free software yeah whereas training Peaks I don't know what the pricing model is for training Peaks so I was just like oh I know Interpol and I had a friend who used it kind of introduced me to it and I was like started using it and that actually like really changed the way I train to be honest like nice like it was kind of loosey-goosey whatever you know like okay I'll run three times a week um no real sense of had a pro uh progress and stuff um but that like measuring the training load and seeing that over time seeing your form right um yeah just really changed how I how I approach all that so trying to avoid getting burnt out uh you know tapering before a race that you care about or whatever um yeah
any major event is uh that was that one was hard for me um yeah just because again going back to my Athletics just like all the games tomorrow we got to put in a hard practice yeah it's so backwards almost completely yeah for Endurance Sports I actually wonder if that's changed now yeah me too for yeah I'm gonna try to get my daughter into something I mean she does Jujitsu but that I mean you're not gonna be training and stuff like that but no yeah that's cool so have you had any like major setbacks or injuries aside from your planetary fasciitis um nothing major I've had I've been pretty fortunate that way so well
I haven't I haven't so I'd say I had a um a knee like some just a painful knee maybe like a runner's knee right and I was I was resting it and it wasn't really getting better and I just kept resting it kept resting it kept resting it and then I finally said okay maybe I need to try some physical therapy stuff and that was like I think months right of just you know like I'll deal with it on my own you know like I think ego is always the problem for me right it's just like I got it I'll figure it out I don't need some professional to tell me how to do it um and you know once I actually looked in went and did it uh like running on it wasn't really a problem right so it was kind of like a like a niggle right like something I could have trained through that I treated like an injury because I was just ignorant about it right um whereas if I went and got it checked out I would have known and I would have been able to fix it fairly easy right um sure is that I've also had like sprained ankles and some minor things that are pretty easy to recover from nothing no no broken bones no no over the handlebars oh I've had some of those uh unfortunately none of those have resulted in any major injuries I actually did get well I say I got hit by a car I had a collision with a car uh yeah so fortunately he stopped moving by the time we collided but I could not and um that was one of those things where yeah
you just gotta laugh at yourself because you're so stubborn uh I my wife wouldn't agree with you my Forks were bent and my and my front wheel was all like taco'd right like it was folded and
it's like are we good like can you give me your insurance information because you know this is clearly your like he was and he told me right he was like it was like 5 30 in the morning or something he's like I'm just coming home from work like I gotta get my daughter to school like all this stuff right it's like okay all right well just give me your insurance information oh well we'll figure it out no big deal you're right and so I actually walked my bike I carried my bike back home and then just I think I got my other bike and I rode and I rode to work and then the next day I was like hmm it hurts to breathe well
like really hurts to breathe I was like huh what are the symptoms of having a broken rib uh I was like oh look that's a symptom of having a broken rib you might not notice it any other way right um so then I went and got it I went and got an x-ray like a couple days later right um yeah so silly things I shouldn't have done but uh yeah but yeah no major injuries fortunately so
so I don't know if I would know at this at this point yeah I've been pretty fortunate uh injury-wise I haven't had anything too crazy I mean if you ask my wife there has been but again stubborn part kicks in for sure um yeah and definitely I injured my neck at some point when I was lifting and it knocked me out for like six months and I definitely should have gone to the doctor but I'm fine now so I think uh I won that one
there's been like long-term damage but so far so great hopefully not yeah yeah I don't think I was benching and I don't even know what I did it it like did something like this to my neck and then it just like immediately read hot pain from like the base of my skull to the middle of my spine I'm like all right this that's that's not good that's not good no it took a few days off and then just like it took me out for like six months yeah but I'm good now on time yeah yeah that's good
so do you have any training or any like races that's the word I'm looking for you got any races coming up that you're training for specifically yeah yeah um which again I think that's part of the kind of change the way I train right so I really do like structuring the year that way having a races that you're targeting to be at you know Peak form four yeah so they're all local um all local races or you know in the area within
close enough I don't need to stay in a hotel or get on a plane or anything right um yeah so yeah there's a Sprint Triathlon in early August in Vancouver Washington here so like we do that uh like I said that's a Sprint and then I think it's two weeks later there's another one in Richland Washington that's a an Olympic distance
um that that's the main thing I'm training for the other thing is kind of like a ShakeOut race or whatever right just a shorter thing to get a feel for racing and again because I haven't done a triathlon and six years seven years maybe so
yeah so that's that's the main thing I I do have other smaller races on my calendar that I might participate in so I mean one I'm definitely going to is like just like the local Fourth of July if it's a 5k or a 10K or whatever yeah go do that um yeah so those little local things just treating them like hard workouts basically um in the training plan yeah so as a good time to test too right like I'm still early enough in what I in in all this that like I should be able to PR stuff um you know so that's kind of always the goal I guess is to see okay can you really PR this 5K even by like 15 seconds come on you know um any Improvement makes me happy yeah so do your kids do any training stuff with you
um no not really um I think you're crazy no nothing crazy no which I've been thinking about how to do that a little better so
like I got a setup in my basement with just kettlebells and stuff so if I you know feel like I need to I can go do that right if I missed some other weight session or whatever just get something in although it's significantly different from what I'm usually doing I'm usually doing barbell stuff right um but I've got ones that are wide enough for my for my kids to use and and do that uh sometimes we'll do that together but we have a family gym membership um so like a YMCA or something yeah well it's uh we don't have a YMCA here but it's similar similar-ish it's like a court Club it's it's got it's got like tennis courts at a pool and a weight room and a basketball court and that's way better MCA really I mean it depends on which ones you get but yeah yeah I've never been to one actually so um yeah so like that's where my pool is that I usually go to um but so we'll go swimming and things I mean that's kind of the main main thing we have it for but I was thinking about like making Thursday night kinda you know family like let's go lift weights or whatever night because they are well at least two of them are kind of interested in in weightlifting well why not so we have we have the means to do that so you just need to put the time in yeah um so I thought about doing that um just to get more time with them doing that kind of thing because
like they see what I'm doing and so I think I'm setting an example but doing it togethers you know much better right yeah it's difficult um like my daughter is 10 the other one's gone so she doesn't know anything yet but yeah I bought her a couple uh I might have one right around here they're little uh plastic kettlebells and like a little plastic dumbbell uh we bring her down in the basement when my wife and I work out just so just so she's exposed to it um and she yeah she just crawls around and plays with her stuff but she at least plays with the Kettlebell and stuff so maybe maybe there's something seeping in there for one she's getting older oh yeah just getting primed yeah exactly our 10 year old she isn't too interested at this moment she has a trampoline and stuff that she jumps on down here when we're yeah when we're working out she likes the stationary bike but she's oh cool kind of afraid of it now because the petals sliced your shin open the other day because oh really we told her it's not a toy and she got a little too out of control with it and yeah yeah it's one of those uh
I can't think the name of it but anyways it had the momentum on it so it just she took her foot off and it just kept going it just yeah it's like yeah it was actually pretty bad but yeah maybe she learned the lesson finally to stop messing around on me yeah and things aren't toys you treat them like they're not toys yeah took me a while to realize that so
yeah I think it's uh I think it's important to like exactly what you're doing just setting the example just talking to him about it answering any questions that they have about it yeah because they're I mean kids you know they're naturally curious so they're gonna ask questions like why the hell are you running around with a sandbag on your shoulders or the crazy stuff that I do so that was a good question yeah it is is it from an outside perspective it is a little crazy yeah
running down the street with no shoes on in a sandbag yeah I I know
I'm a crazy guys I've never heard yeah every neighborhood needs some so
I have it no other way
well if you could um what kind of advice would you give to any other fathers um as far as trying to juggle work life balance Fitness the kids your personal athletic Pursuits what do you think is your glue that holds it all together for you well um
I mean for me it's it's a lot of it is about time management it's just
you know looking at your calendar what time do you have available to do the thing do you want to do that's probably going to be pretty early in the morning A lot of times I think for most people so I think knowing that going into it um which of course also remains going to bed at an okay time right so you can recover from all this stuff you're doing yeah um yeah I'm somewhat leery to give just blanket advice because my Situation's a little different well makes sense a little different from what I consider to be the ideal for like a father with children and a wife right like so I'm I'm co-parenting so like half the days I don't have my kids so I have lots of time to dedicate to whatever I want to do um like I would almost say I put a lot of time in to avoid not having anything else to do during those times right um and
yeah so I think I think everybody's kind of in a different situation I'd say if you are in that situation right where you're co-parenting you find yourself a lot of free time you're like what do I do with myself it's like well I think this is a noble pursuit to just improve yourself um you know physically it helps a lot with emotional well-being that's my experience um and yeah so that would be kind of my my advice but generically
it's about making the time for it right like finding the time making it like a you know making like an appointment for yourself to do the thing and treat it with the same you know respect or as serious as you would make an appointment with somebody else to do something right you don't want to waste you wouldn't want to waste somebody else's time like don't waste your time get in there and do the thing you said to yourself you would do right I like that um that's the way I think about it um I never actually thought about it like that like do you respect yourself enough to commit to it like you would if you had a doctor's appointment you respect the doctor's time you should respect your own time that's that's I like that a lot man
so I don't yeah that's that's not an original thought of mine I don't remember where I first heard it but but it's a I think it's useful so I'm gonna I'm gonna use it as a quote from you directly now so it is okay all right appreciate that
so that's funny yeah um do you have any uh let's say you have any like Role Models or anything in your fitness journey that you look up to or anyone that you kind of look to see maybe these guys are five steps ahead of me what are they doing that kind of stuff yeah yeah um I think definitely so
probably quite a few like I I look up to the
older guys right who are still fit like um and like older to me is not like I think they might laugh if I was like oh yeah they're older guys that are fit right because there's people older than them that are fit right but it'd be like uh like Gordo Byrne um I I you know listen to him on the virtual podcast and I don't know sometime last year I was like oh this story like just his story kind of resonates with with everything he was like a not professional but Elite triathlete um what's that definitely Elite definitely Elite and and you know um you know took time to focus on his family and stuff like that and his kind of getting back into it with um yeah just all this incredible knowledge about how how to do it properly right um and yeah folks like you know like Rich Roll um kind of Endurance Sports guys and then I do like watching I do like watching Pro triathletes now just like oh nice their Vlog updates about their training how the races went things like that like uh I don't know big fan of Lionel Sanders and uh and Sam long um you know to America Earl actually Lionel's Canadian um but yeah anyway nice would you say triathletes or Triathlon is your main focus for Fitness I mean I know you do some barbell stuff as well which is great because that's yeah everybody but the yep Triathlon some big Focus yeah that's kind of been my main interest kind of since then yeah um you know since getting into it like even when I was just running it was kind of always in the back of my mind like when am I gonna when am I gonna do this again you know um because I kept I kept biking kept by commuting um but yeah and I actually was using the bike for cross training like last year I was last year I did my first my first half marathon and then my first marathon and I was using using the bike trainer like the Wahoo kicker or whatever to kind of cross train for that too so um
so yeah and when I was doing all that part way through the year I said to myself this is just too much running like just too much of the same thing every single day uh because I was running six days a week usually twice a day or you know not usually twice a day but often twice a day um so it was just it was just too much yeah and um see I'm enjoying the variety of triathlon even though it is more complicated I would say to try to build in all those disciplines
um so it's a little more complicated that way yeah I think that's that's what draws me towards hybrid Athletics yeah because I get behind I mean we all get bored but I yeah like super bored so quick and I probably will never do another Ultra again unless I do an ultra obstacle course which I found but oh yeah the training for Ultras oh my God I don't even know like halfway once I started till about halfway till I was there to the race I was just like running for like five hours
this is just boring [Β __Β ] well to be fair though I do do it like super Spartan ask with no headphones or anything yeah debates on that from people and people are very opens out and the headphones and no headphones you know people out there
do you find an opinion or you find something to have an opinion about you'll find people I mean it's about that thing so strong sometimes you just people do what they want who cares yeah anyways I choose to not use it yeah and that that started with when I started my endurance training I wanted to I use it as like a meditative way but also kind of to just get in tune in sync with my body and like hear it get the the audio feedback and yeah I don't know I like it a lot more yeah there's a lot to that yeah I used to just listen I think honestly I wrote a Blog article about it about how different music affects how you run and I used to listen to like really hardcore yeah music metal basically and I would not I did a little experiment with myself that I would run faster my heart rate would be higher I would gas out faster and then I put on like down Tempo low five beats or something for the next run and be like I ran for like five hours and it was great and yeah it definitely influences you um it does I don't think anyone is surprised by that but no yeah so I'm just going Spartan on it and doing no headphones and I like it because I get to hear the birds too so that's honestly the biggest reason that I do it and the drivers around here are wild and I don't want to die so that's another good reason yeah yeah I've started using those bone conductive um headphones for that reason switch about that yeah they're not I just is there shocks or whatever I think they're probably like the main brand that's out there right now I've never even heard of it before until you had mentioned it I don't know oh yeah they like flip over your ears um kind of rest on your temple um but yeah no I say like I used to listen to System of a Down When I would run and now I listen to Moby I just slowed down you know
because I just uh I I just heard one of his songs like a week or so ago and I like completely forgot about him as an artist up until like like oh my God this game I listened to him so much when I was younger really it was awesome it's funny you bring it up enough yeah actually he does have one like kind of Electro Punk album that came out um I don't know quite a while ago now but that one's good like if you need to get amped to listen to it so do you like Electro Punk anyway which pretty Niche I think maybe they're honestly um so before I switch careers to be a software engineer I was uh going to school for audio engineering and so music is definitely like my first Passion and stuff so oh really but the reason I say that is I haven't come across any genre of music that I don't like yet so I'm gonna have to check yeah yeah it's pretty good um
but the album's called these systems are failing um I don't remember it's like a side project thing I think it had things like Moby and something yeah um so I don't remember with that yeah what it was called I'm impressed you remember the album name I listen to it a lot at one point but yeah all right man well we've been going at it pretty close to an hour so I guess we'll wrap it up because I got work tomorrow but oh oh yeah and it's uh it's about 10 30 like 10 30. yeah yeah the dad life that's late for me all right cool well um I really appreciate you taking the time um I'm glad it worked out I would love to do this again at some point in the future because you're a great conversationalist and I like everything that you put out there speaking of do you have anything you'd like to plug I know I read your newsletter I I obviously I follow you on Twitter we interact quite a bit on this so feel free to uh plug anything you want where can people find you stuff like that yeah I mean that's that's really it um I'm not active on any other social media right now so um and yeah I just I like to just using using Twitter and the newsletter is like kind of a creative Outlet like Twitter's pretty Fitness Focus the newsletter is a little more all over the place like like I I wrote about grieving I think today when I sent it out so it's a little more all over the place just like whatever I'm yeah kind of using it as a way to develop as a writer um nice yeah that's yeah on Twitter I'm just at DP at D polling d-p-o-l-e-h-n and you can find me on uh you can subscribe to my newsletter it's at beehive uh you know the same dpol ehn at beehive.com so yeah I'll drop all the links in there as well oh cool it'll make you Delight yeah I've got DP depotlean.com too so there you go but all right like I said I really appreciate you being the inaugural guest for the the dad fit podcast oh I appreciate the opportunity it was good talking and yeah I'd love to do it again sometime so awesome man all right good deal take it easy I'll see you sir bye
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