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Five years ago, at the urging of federal officials, much of the United States locked down to stop the spread of Covid. Over time, the action polarized the country and changed the relationship between many Americans and their government.

Michael Barbaro speaks to Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee, two prominent political scientists who dispute the effectiveness of the lockdowns, to find out what they think will be required when the next pandemic strikes.

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Guest: Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee, authors of In Covid’s Wake: How Our Politics Failed Us

Background reading: 

• As the coronavirus spread, researchers worldwide scrambled to find ways to keep people safe. Some efforts were misguided. Others saved millions of lives.

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President Trump’s showdown with the courts reached a new milestone on Tuesday, when he called for a federal judge to be impeached and the chief justice of the Supreme Court publicly scolded the president in response.

Luke Broadwater, who covers the White House for The Times, discusses the deportation case at the center of the confrontation — and whether the constitutional crisis that many have feared has now arrived.

Guest: Luke Broadwater, who covers the White House for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• A judge ordered deportation planes to turn around. The White House didn’t listen.
• The order has made the judge in the deportation case a target of Republican anger.

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After engaging in a campaign of retribution against his enemies within the federal government, President Trump is turning to those outside of it.

Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, explains what that retribution has looked like for a single law firm — and the impact it has had on the entire legal profession.

Guest: Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, covering Washington.

Background reading: 

• The law firm Perkins Coie has sued the Trump administration over an executive order that would make it all but impossible for the firm to advocate for its clients.
• The president’s use of government power to punish law firms is seen by some experts as undercutting a basic tenet: the right to a strong defense.

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Warning: This episode contains strong language.

Over the past few days, a routine debate over government funding has exploded into an angry showdown over the Democrats’ identity in the Trump era, and whether their current leadership is right for the moment.

Catie Edmondson, who covers Congress, and Shane Goldmacher, who covers national politics, discuss a weekend that rocked the Democratic Party.

Guest: 

• Catie Edmondson, a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.
• Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• Senator Chuck Schumer broke with his party to clear a path for a Republican spending bill that kept the government open.
• Young Democrats’ anger boiled over as Mr. Schumer retreated on a shutdown.

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In just a few weeks, the Trump administration has taken a hard line with allies such as Mexico and Canada. Now, a trade war is on the horizon with Europe.

Mark Landler, the London bureau chief of The New York Times, explains how a fracturing alliance with Europe could affect global political dynamics.

Guest: Mark Landler, the London bureau chief of The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• The European Union responded to American steel and aluminum tariffs with its own levies on boats and bourbon.
• Europe expected a transactional President Trump. It got something else.

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A gloves-off trade war with the United States is uniting Canadians against their southern neighbor.

Matina Stevis-Gridneff, the Canada bureau chief for The New York Times, explains how the dispute is shifting the country’s politics, culture and place on the global stage.

Guest: Matina Stevis-Gridneff, the Canada bureau chief for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• President Trump intensified statehood threats as he increased tariffs on Canada.

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A measles outbreak continues to spread in Texas. More than 200 people have been infected. One child has died. And health experts are now concerned that low vaccination rates will make it harder to contain.

Teddy Rosenbluth, a health reporter at The New York Times, explains the rapid outbreak — and asks whether the government’s response will signal a turning point in how America views public heath.

Guest: Teddy Rosenbluth, a health reporter at The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• The Texas measles outbreak shows signs of a riskier future for children.
• Here’s where measles is spreading in the United States.
• Robert F. Kennedy Jr. linked the outbreak to poor diet and health, citing fringe theories.

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In his recent address before Congress, President Trump talked once again about his big ambitions for Greenland.

He told the icebound island’s “incredible people” that he supported their right to determine their future. But he ended his message with a threat, declaring, “One way or the other we are going to get it.”

Jeffrey Gettleman, an international correspondent for The New York Times who recently traveled to the island, explains what Mr. Trump wants from Greenland, and whether he may actually get it.

Guest: Jeffrey Gettleman, an international correspondent for The New York Times, based in London and covering global events.

Background reading: 

• Trump said the U.S. would “get” Greenland. Greenlanders were not impressed.
• Jeffrey Gettleman spent 12 days reporting around Greenland about its big moment.
• The harsh reality behind the glittering promise of Greenland’s minerals.

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In the coming days, President Trump is expected to sign an executive order that would follow through on one of his major campaign promises: to abolish the U.S. Department of Education. The catch is that he still needs the department to impose his vision on American schools.

Dana Goldstein, who covers education for The Times, explains how Mr. Trump is balancing his desire both to dismantle and to weaponize the Education Department.

Guest: Dana Goldstein, a reporter covering education and families for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• Here’s why Republicans want to dismantle the Education Department.
• Video: What does the Department of Education actually do?

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