Andy & Pedro are joined by a good friend of the pod, Rob Morvillo - Chief Legal Officer @ Olo. The discussion focuses on the in-house lawyer’s relationship with their outside law firm counsel and how this has evolved over time.

Andy and Pedro chat with their good friend Alan Chapell, longtime AdTech privacy lawyer and one of the key voices in the overlap between AdTech and competition law.

Andy and Pedro discuss the importance of putting yourself out there in your career by speaking, writing and engaging in public conversations. They also bat around some really important concepts like what to watch on flights, motorcycle meditation and the best privacy pros to hear speak at events.

Andy and Pedro celebrate the 100th episode of DPBC! They discuss the future of tech companies in the EU, focusing on data protection regulations and the challenges these companies face. Thank you for listening!

Nubiaa Shabaka combines a wealth of expertise in privacy/cybersecurity with a deep curiosity and love of learning/collaborating. It is a skill we have consistently seen in several big organization CPOs. And Nubiaa has had some of the biggest roles you can have in privacy/cyber at a mix of very complex organizations. Currently she is the VP, & Chief Cybersecurity Legal/Privacy Officer @ Adobe and was Chief Cybersecurity Legal/Privacy Officer @ American International Group (AIG) and in a similar leadership role @ Morgan Stanley.

In addition to her day job, Nubiaa also works closely on Adobe’s Data Governance program and sits on its AI leadership groups.

We last talked with Greg in October of 2021. In that episode we covered Greg’s law firm days, in-house career and formation of TechGC with his Co-Founder Kiran Lingam.

We catch up with Greg again to discuss the growth of the L Suite and really just the impact of “community” on our work and life. And of course we will tackle the very important question of the best pizza in Brooklyn and Manhattan.

Would you move for your dream job?  Aaron Mendelsohn did, but not a simple move.  He and his family relocated to Denmark when he got an opportunity to join the LEGO Group and help support its privacy journey.  We rarely see a US lawyer going to Europe and its a fascinating story.  

Aaron loves the LEGO Group brand deeply (and so do we).  Supporting a company and brand which you personally use and love often goes a long way in doing your best work!

Simon McDougall doesn’t take the easy road, never has.  He likes hard problems and isn’t afraid to dig in and try to solve them. Simon has a deep sense of pragmatism and business balance which makes him an effective leader. 

He is currently the Chief Compliance Officer of ZoomInfo and was previously Deputy Commissioner for the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO), the UK’s independent authority for upholding information rights. While @ the ICO he established new technology policy and innovation functions working on artificial intelligence, adtech, and competition.  Simon also has worked for years in consulting at Promontory (an IBM company) and Deloitte.