On this episode of The Point podcast, Zach Fine takes a break from Selected Essays and Selected Novels to discuss another important, if less literary, topic: American football. Zach is joined by Leif Weatherby, the author of an essay just published this week in The Point about the career of Aaron Rodgers against the backdrop of U.S. empire in decline, as well as Point editors James Duesterberg and Julia Aizuss, to discuss this year’s Super Bowl, why Aaron Rodgers (and all quarterbacks) are so weird, and what drives a man into the realm of violence and conspiracy. 

Relevant reading:

• “Permanent Decline: The long, slow end of Aaron Rodgers, the American man, and U.S. empire,” by Leif Weatherby (The Point)
• “Steroids, Baseball, America,” by Jon Baskin (The Point)
• “Biggest Losers,” by Jon Baskin (The Point, Forms of Life)