The Center for Artificial Intelligence & the Future of Work from JFFLabs seeks to shape AI's impact on skills development, job quality, and equitable outcomes. In this episode, Paul Fain speaks with Alex Swartsel and Tiffany Hsieh, who help lead the center's work. They talked about AI-specific credentialing, how community colleges can best meet this moment, and much more.

Lydia Logan also joined Fain for this episode. Logan is vice president of global education and workforce development for IBM, a vantage point that gives her rare insights on AI and the workforce. She discussed the value of durable skills in the age of AI, and the role for IBM and other big tech companies in AI skills training.

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