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- Baltazar is vegan. Ela eats meat. Can we agree that animals suffer? (Part 2)
Baltazar is vegan. Ela eats meat. Can we find common ground?
In this episode we turn the lens on one of the most emotionally charged lifestyle divides of our time — food. What starts as a conversation about diet quickly becomes something deeper: about values, identity, moral judgement, and how we talk to people we care about when we fundamentally disagree.
We navigate this with honesty and care, touching on animal ethics, environmentalism, empathy across difference, and what it actually feels like to be on each side of this conversation.
The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.
Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/
Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com
Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/
Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:
https://baltazarfaunback.com/
57 min - Baltazar is vegan. Ela eats meat. Can we find common ground? (Part 1)
Baltazar is vegan. Ela eats meat. Can we find common ground?
In this episode we turn the lens on one of the most emotionally charged lifestyle divides of our time — food. What starts as a conversation about diet quickly becomes something deeper: about values, identity, moral judgement, and how we talk to people we care about when we fundamentally disagree.
We navigate this with honesty and care, touching on animal ethics, environmentalism, empathy across difference, and what it actually feels like to be on each side of this conversation.
The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.
Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/
Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com
Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/
Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:
https://baltazarfaunback.com/
49 min - Joe Rogan: Can we disagree with empathy? (Part 2)
Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.
This is the second episode where we sit down to actually talk about what it triggers in us to talk about Joe Rogan, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.
We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.
The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.
Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/
Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com
Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/
Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:
https://baltazarfaunback.com/
1 hr 7 min - Baltazar likes Joe Rogan and Ela doesn’t. Can we talk about it and stay friends? (Part 1)
Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.
In this first episode we sit down to actually talk about why, what it triggers, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.
We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.
The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.
Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/
Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com
Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/
Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:
https://baltazarfaunback.com/
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About The Depolarization Podcast
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Can two friends disagree with empathy?
Baltazar and Ela don't always agree, yet they both want to connect. Each episode they dig into the topics that divide people —…
politics, culture, society — and share what genuinely triggers them trying to actually understand where the other is coming to show what it looks like to disagree with empathy.
Each episode explores what it really takes to listen, disagree well, and find shared humanity in a polarized world using tools from Nonviolent Communication (NVC).
Ela Ramos is a licensed psychotherapist and certified Nonviolent Communication trainer. She lives in the US and has been practicing NVC for over 20 years and she offers workshops, trainings and coaching to improve communication and empathy skills.
Baltazar Faunbäck is the founder of The Empathy Institute, NVC trainer & facilitator and author of the book Be A Mirror In a World of Walls.
The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.
thedepolarizationpodcast.com
Follow Ela: radicalhearttherapy.com
Follow Baltazar: baltazarfaunback.com