In which I speak with Colorado psychiatrist Dr. Craig Heacock about psychedelic drugs and their potential use as healing agents in therapy. Topics range from the prejudice against these previously-banned drugs, their link to the 1960's and ancient healing techniques. We explore uses and misuses of mood-altering substances, talk some about Timothy Leary, Ram Dass and what Dr. Heacock sees as a potential future for psychedelic drugs legalization.

Dr. Heacock is the host of the psychedelic podcast "Back From the Abyss"
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/podcast-page/

Outro music is by Mitch Sumner; "Jealous of Everyone," from his album "Current" (2020).
Hear my interview with him here: https://www.podpage.com/showing-up/current-mitch-sumner/