The Digital Agency Growth Podcast

Are you struggling to cut through the noise and connect with your ideal clients? You’re not the only one. In the ever-changing world of outbound sales, it can be difficult to know the best ways to niche down and connect with your ideal clients. Adam Robinson is here this week to share his unique perspective on the changing landscape of sales and marketing, emphasizing the power of organic social media content and the importance of building trust with prospects. 

From his unconventional branding approach to his transparent, storytelling-driven content strategy, Adam offers a refreshing take on how agencies and B2B service providers can adapt to the evolving demands of today's buyers. This week, episode 238 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about navigating the evolving landscape of outbound sales! 

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Adam Robinson shares the importance of building trust and personalized outreach and actionable steps you can take right now to stand out in your market. 

Adam Robinson is the Founder/CEO of Retention.com and RB2B. Adam bootstrapped Retention.com to $22m ARR in 4 years by helping ecommerce stores identify their anonymous website visitors and send them triggered emails. He launched RB2B in March of 2024 to help SaaS companies identify anonymous website visitors and see their LinkedIn profiles in Slack for free! Adam lives in Austin, TX with his wife Helen and daughter Emma.

In this episode, Dan and Adam discuss the following:

• The benefits of identifying anonymous site visitors and sending LinkedIn profiles to Slack.
• The concept of humanizing data and the impact of seeing a face on a site visit.
• The decline of cold outreach and the increasing importance of inbound and organic social media content.
• Adam’s perspective on LinkedIn evolving into an edutainment platform and its impact on content creation.

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As an agency owner, you know the challenges of standing out in a crowded market and driving consistent growth. From navigating changing client demands to optimizing your operations, the path to success can feel elusive. Nick Petroski, founder of Promethean Research, shares the data-driven insights that are helping leading agencies overcome these obstacles and achieve remarkable growth. This week, episode 237 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about building resilient agencies in a rapidly changing market! 

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Nick Petroski shares the foundational elements agencies should have, strategies that generate revenue for their clients and the operational shifts that fuel an agency’s success.

Nicholas Petroski is the founder of Promethean Research. Since 2015, he has helped over 100 digital agency owners better understand their industry and chart more effective paths to success. Before co-founding Promethean, Nick worked as an equity analyst at a Wall Street firm covering the enterprise software and semiconductor industries. 

In this episode, Dan and Nick Petroski discuss the following:

• How the level of sophistication in the agency industry has evolved over the past decade.
• Characteristics of successful "boutique" agencies today.
• The benefits of specialization and deep industry expertise.
• The shift towards a consultative, relationship-based approach to revenue generation.
• The value of using data and research to inform strategic decision-making.

Whether you're looking to specialize your offerings, improve your sales process, or build a more efficient delivery model, this conversation is packed with actionable advice to take your agency to the next level.

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Sales Schema

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One of the biggest challenges agency owners and their teams face when it comes to business development is how to open doors efficiently, build meaningful relationships, and fill your sales pipeline without getting bogged down by a slow, one-by-one approach. 

Dan recently had the opportunity to guest on the Sell with Authority podcast hosted by Stephen Woessner to talk about Sales Schema’s strategies to find commonalities between you and your potential clients, our approach to effective testing with smaller B2B sample sizes, and more. We’re happy to present that episode for you today. This week, episode 236 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about how to balance personalization and scale.

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Dan Englander and Stephen Woessner share the importance of building trust with potential clients through relationship-building and actionable steps you can take right now to identify commonalities you share with your potential clients. 

Stephen Woessner is the CEO and President of Predictive ROI, a company that offers community, coaching, and turnkey services to help you lead and grow your business strategically. Stephen is also the co-author of Sell With Authority: Own and Monetize Your Agency's Authority Position. For over 25 years, Stephen has been in the trenches of agency new business strategy working alongside agencies and consultants — teaching them how to build their authority within the markets they serve, grow their audience, and fill their sales pipeline with a steady stream of right-fit clients so they can win new business. 

In this episode, Dan and Stephen discuss the following:

• How outbound marketing can fine-tune your overall marketing efforts.
• Why agency owners should offload tasks to build an effective outreach system.
• The ideal team setup for outbound marketing.
• The role of testing in outbound marketing and the importance of running campaigns over a period of time.

Don’t forget to get your hand on a copy of Stephen’s book, Sell With Authority: Own and Monetize Your Agency's Authority Position today!

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Hourly billing is incredibly common throughout the agency space. We’ve all seen it, paid for it, and probably have priced our work that way at one point as well. But hourly billing is not great for anyone involved in the transaction: those providing the service find themselves hitting a ceiling and unable to scale, while clients worry about how many hours a project will take and whether or not the quoted price is actually what they’ll pay. Jonathan Stark is here today to present the full case against hourly billing and guide us in what our pricing models should be instead. This week, episode 235 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about ditching hourly billing and embracing value-based pricing! 

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Jonathan Stark shares the importance of understanding the value clients get from your contributions and how to package that value for sale. and actionable steps you can take right now to start targeting specific industries to get more leads. 

Jonathan Stark is a former software developer who is on a mission to rid the world of hourly billing. He is the author of Hourly Billing Is Nuts, the host of Ditching Hourly, and writes a daily newsletter on pricing for independent professionals.

In this episode, Dan and Jonathan discuss the following:

•  How hourly pricing can lead to a ceiling on income and limits the ability to scale.
• The benefits of specialization and how it can lead to more productization.
• The importance of positioning yourself as the one and only expert in your niche.
• Ways to start shifting to project or performance-based pricing.

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Are you struggling to cut through the noise and get your outreach messages noticed by the right prospects? Many businesses, especially agencies and B2B service providers, find it challenging to craft effective outreach copy that actually leads to meaningful conversations and new opportunities. 

In episode 234 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast this week, Dan shares a sneak peek into his upcoming workshop, "The Right Words to the Right People." He dives deep into the strategies and tactics you can use to elevate your outreach game and connect with your ideal clients.

In our The Right Words to the Right People Workshop, learn how we craft email copy that secures meetings with skeptical decision-makers without spam or burnout.

In this episode, Dan discusses these key takeaways:

• The importance of building a solid foundation for your outreach by mapping your total addressable market and segmenting your target audience
• How to leverage personalization and commonalities to build trust and kinship with your prospects
• Techniques for demonstrating a deep understanding of your target market through your outreach copy
• The power of "showing, not telling" to provide inarguable evidence of your expertise
• Strategies for creating a sense of timeliness and using pattern interrupts to make your outreach stand out
• Tips for de-risking your outreach and reducing the perceived barriers to engagement

Whether you're looking to scale your agency's new business efforts or boost the effectiveness of your B2B prospecting, this episode is packed with practical insights to help you craft outreach copy that resonates with the right people and drives meaningful results.

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Sales Schema

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Building a strong client base is a significant goal for any agency to continue to scale. However, acquiring new business is not a one-size-fits-all situation in the agency space. Business development comes in many shapes and sizes, and what works for a ten-person team likely won’t be as effective for a 100-person company. A friend of the show, Jody Sutter, is here this week to talk about her experiences in business development, the four business personalities, overcoming the fear of sales, and more! This week, episode 233 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about unlocking the secrets to building a thriving new business culture for your agency.

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Jody Sutter shares the importance of efining the agency's new business ecosystem, including its promise to clients and actionable steps you can take right now to break down the  hesitancy in embracing sales, particularly the fear of rejection. 

Jody Sutter is the owner of The Sutter Company, a business development coaching and advisory firm, and the inventor of the BUILD WIN SCALE™ system, a step-by-step process designed to help leaders of small marketing agencies identify and activate their natural talents for sales and marketing, leading to a sustainable approach to winning new business. She started The Sutter Company after more than two decades of running business development teams for agencies, large and small and spanning a diverse list of disciplines. They’ve included R/GA, OMD, Havas Media and The VIA Agency. Equal parts storyteller and problem-solver, she knows how to prescribe the tools and techniques that are right for your agency to get your prospects to say “yes”.

In this episode, Dan and Jody discuss the following:

• The importance of taking consistent action and being willing to try different approaches.
• Jody’s four business personality roles and how they approach business development.
• Moving past rejection and onto the next business opportunity without deterring the agency.
• Building systems for long-term sales success.

Don’t forget to check out Jody’s book, A Small Agency’s Guide to Winning New Business: 8 Steps to Winning More of the Right Kinds of Clients on Amazon.

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Sales Schema

Stop relying on unpredictable referrals and take control of your agency's future growth. Go to salesschema.com/takecharge to access the free training now. 

With a current economic downturn affecting agencies with slowed growth and uncertainty, many owners likely feel less than stellar about their businesses. But rather than get discouraged, now is the time to focus on strategic positioning, client retention, and, most importantly, your self-esteem and confidence in yourself and your agency. Steve Guberman is with us today, using his over 25 years in the creative, marketing, advertising, and PR industry, including a decade spent running and eventually selling his successful agency, to share insights into avoiding low self-esteem, avoiding burnout, defining your agency’s unique goals, and more. This week, episode 232 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about overcoming burnout and building successful agencies!

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Steve Guberman shares the importance of setting boundaries and honoring personal values to avoid burnout and actionable steps you can take right now to document your sales process to get the agency owner out of the sales seat. 

With over 25 years in the creative, marketing, advertising, and public relations industry, including a decade spent running and eventually selling his own successful agency, Steve Guberman now channels his expertise into coaching agency owners. As the founder of Agency Outsight, Steve helps owners unearth their challenges, define their goals, and conquer them all, enabling them to build and run the agency of their dreams.

In this episode, Dan and Steve discuss the following:

• Recognizing past successes to combat low self-esteem and imposter syndrome as an agency owner.
• Focusing on showing more value and relevance to clients in a mature market.
• Time blocking and documenting sales processes as essential tools for managing workload and reducing stress.
• The importance of systematizing sales processes to free up the owner's time and grow the agency.

Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!

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Agency Bytes podcast

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Sales Schema

Stop relying on unpredictable referrals and take control of your agency's future growth. Go to salesschema.com/takecharge to access the free training now. 

It’s common for merging and acquisition to be on an agency owner’s mind from the very beginning, even if it is not part of their original goals. Even if you find yourself still wanting to scale your business before selling, it’s never too early to start taking steps that will make the M&A process easier down the road. Jonathan Baker is here today to share how the M&A landscape looks right now, what factors into valuation decisions, the importance of patience in the process, and more. This week, episode 231 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about preparing your agency for a successful acquisition!

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Jonathan Baker shares the importance of patience in the M&A process and actionable steps you can take right now to start preparing your agency for acquisition, well before valuation. 

Jonathan Baker is the Practice Lead of the M&A practice at Punctuation, a small consultancy focused exclusively on servicing creative, digital, and marketing services firms. After starting his carrer in marketing strategy and positioning, Jonathan left in 2011 to pursue his own business, Monday Night Brewing. Along with two business partners,he has grown the craft brewery to five locations and nto one of the largest craft breweries in the nation by volume. My focus has been on marketing, sales, and taprooms. Jonathan recently stepped out of the day-to-day at Monday Night to work with his father David to grow Punctuation.

In this episode, Dan and Jonathan discuss the following:

• COVID’s impact on agency goals due to vulnerability.
• Focusing on a few key lead generation activities instead of spreading yourself thin.
• The importance of patience in the M&A process.
• Challenges that can ruin a deal last minute.

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Sales Schema

Stop relying on unpredictable referrals and take control of your agency's future growth. Go to salesschema.com/takecharge to access the free training now. 

Every agency owner wants to make sure that their business is as profitable as possible. But as an agency grows and there are more clients and employees to take care of and line items to consider, how do we peel back the layers to discover what’s holding us back from being more profitable? Marcel Petitpas is back again this week to share his insights into improving your profitability, positioning your agency, and more. This week, episode 230 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about strategies for improving delivery margin and agency profitability!

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Marcel Petitpas shares the importance of positioning and niching down and actionable steps you can take right now to ensure you’re managing costs effectively in order to improve your profit margins. 

Marcel Petitpas is the CEO & Co-Founder of Parakeeto, a company dedicated to helping agencies improve their profitability by streamlining their operations and reporting systems. He is also the head strategic coach at SaaS Academy by Dan Martell, the #1 coaching program for B2B SaaS businesses in the world.  In his work as a speaker, podcast host and consultant, specializing in Agency Profitability Optimization, Marcel has helped hundreds of agencies around the world improve profitability and cash flow in their business.  

In this episode, Dan and Marcel discuss the following:

• The need for human intervention in data quality.
• Different ways to make agencies more profitable.
• Shortening the cash conversion cycle to maintain growth without cash flow issues.
• How being overstaffed is likely an agency’s biggest problem.

If you’re looking to start increasing your agency’s profitability, you can start by checking out Parakeeto’s free Agency Profitability Toolkit! If you’re looking to dive deeping into mastering the art of modeling, forecasting, measuring, and improving the profitability of your agency, check out Parakeeto's Foundations Course!

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Sales Schema

Stop relying on unpredictable referrals and take control of your agency's future growth. Go to salesschema.com/takecharge to access the free training now. 

Last week on the show, we talked about taking a proactive approach with outbound by reaching out to their prospective clients and building authentic relationships. This week, Dan talks about Sales Schema’s actual methodology for doing so, the Targeted Outreach System, and focuses on giving you practical tips for optimization and a peek into the program. This week, episode 229 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about optimizing agency-to-brand outreach!

Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and highly targeted email outreach.

In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Dan Englander shares the importance of understanding the reasons behind low open rates and addressing them systematically and actionable steps you can take right now to build successful relationships that lead to meetings and interested prospective clients. 

In this episode, Dan discusses the following:

• The current trust recession and how building relationships can help.
• Four common hazards in outbound sales to avoid for success. 
• The order of operations in optimization, from open rates to meeting rates.
• The need for a systematic approach to converting replies and agreements into meetings.

Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!

Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and our Video training at http://salesschema.com/takecharge 

CONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:

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Sales Schema

Stop relying on unpredictable referrals and take control of your agency's future growth. Go to salesschema.com/takecharge to access the free training now.