The Disability Tangent

Round Two with Dr. Robin Arnall and Alexandra Elfers as we continue our discussions of autism, disability, power, passion, and how to be people through it all. You thought we touched on a lot last week? We were apparently just getting warmed up! There is so much more. And honestly, if we hadn't all run out of spoons (and perhaps also forks) we might have kept on talking for another two hours. This episode we hit on some controversies in the ABA community, how to be a good human, the challenge of masking--or not masking--as a neurodiverse human, and how consent has a complex history when it come to disability. Lots to unpack and we barely scratch the surface, but come along as we start to look at these issues in our second hour of conversation.

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Guests on this episode:

Dr. Robin Arnall (ResearchGate page)

Alexandra Vassar (Elfers) (ResearchGate page)

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Time Stamps:

02:36 - AuDHD

02:59 - Empowering Autonomy: ASAP

03:32 - Ukeru Certified Trainer

05:10 - Autism ABA Controversy

11:50 - Lovvas Concerns

13:27 - Mahogany Mommies

17:38 - Jeremy Andrew Davis

19:44 - Texarkana Controversy

25:36 - CATU Assessment

31:25 - Gavin Neate and WelcoME from Episode 1

40:59 - Stereotypy

44:22 - Unified Cutlery Theory

46:57 - John Newton and Clearing Ancestral Trauma

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This week we invite Dr. Robin Arnall, Ph.D., BCBA-D, LBA, and Alexandra Vassar, MS, BCBA, COBA, NCLBA into the room for a massive discussion. Well, not the literal room because we all want virtual work as an accommodation. Robin and Alexandra join us to discuss work in the field of Applied Behavior Analysis and the controversies over power, control, systems, and consent that come along with being neurodivergent in this space. There are numerous tangents, a few sensitive subjects, lots of laughs, and even some tears. There are also a number of apologies from Christy who seems intent on offending everyone she has ever met in this discussion--if she doesn't apologize to you in this episode, stay tuned for Part 2!

Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12as-oLcCiE3RQPnqDKxKnNcDmsYZZJdwTUjLX7fQmDw/edit?usp=sharing 

Guests on this episode:

Dr. Robin Arnall (ResearchGate page)

Alexandra Vassar (Elfers) (ResearchGate page)

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Time Stamps:

06:13- Russell Sage College 

06:20- The Chicago School

06:20 - ABA = Applied Behavior Analysis

14:08 - Chemical Restraint

19:32 - The Black Panthers

20:25 - Section 504

19:56 - WIC Program

20:40 - Crip Camp Documentary

22:25 - Buckminster Fuller

26:36 - APA apology letter 

35:02 - EMT (Emergency Medical Technician - Medical Professionals who work  on an Ambulance)

40:35 - ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences)

42:58 - ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy/Training)

44:15 - The Program (a Netflix documentary)

52:25 - DisCrit (Disability Critical Race Theory) 

1:01:22 - FMLA (Family and Medical Leave Act)

1:06:54 - “Masking”

1:08:24 - Elephant Metaphor [in reference to cultural change]

1:09:00 - Empowering Autonomy: A Skills Assessment Protocol

1:10:05 - Unwinnable leadership game (A variation of the “Privilege Walk” activity) 

1:15:27 - Code Switch (A GREAT Podcast called Code Switch targets these topics in a variety of communities)

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This week we hit all of the contentious topics in tangent form! Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, the so-called Woke Agenda, the ways that disability intersects, and how politics, race, poverty, and even being "pretty" shape our worlds are discussed. And in true Disability Tangent form we also talk about Christy's witchy ways, Rocco's drinking habits, philosophy, distraction, and imaginary ways to shop that should totally exist! Things get a bit wild and possibly overwhelming, but we hope there is also a little bit to learn and to consider. Buckle up, and thanks for joining us on the journey!

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The creator of The Disability Tangent cover art is Emily Krejci. You can visit her shop at Emily Krejci Shop on RedBubble: https://www.redbubble.com/people/ek212/shop

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TIME STAMPS:

• 16:00 Bootstrapping

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The women behind the scenes get pulled in front of the camera--if the camera were working properly, but it isn't. Why technology challenged humans are trying to host a podcast is a question we do not answer but we have many answers about the Illinois LEND program, what it is like to work with and for Rocco and Christy, how being an insider gets you perks like mocking the hosts, and what Cydney Liebenberg and Hannah Brandt are doing with the experiences from this year working on the podcast. We couldn't have done it without them! We really, really couldn't have. We aren't really sure we can keep pulling this off come May, to be honest. Stay tuned to find out and to hear more about these amazing women who are doing so much to change the way disabled bodies are viewed and addressed in physical therapy. They are going to do great things and we can't wait to continue following them on their journeys!

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Cydney Liebenberg and Hannah Brandt are current fellows goin through the Illinois Leadership and Education in Neurodevelopmental and Related Disorders(LEND) Program at the University of Illinois at Chicago(UIC) 

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TIME STAMPS:

• 7.22 Travel Episode: Traveling with Catarina Rivera 

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Take a trip with us to learn all about accessible travel! Catarina Rivera joins us to share about her travels, her tips, her work, and her desires for even more access. She has lots of information for you if you are a person with a disability who wants to travel. She has lots of insight and passion to share with you if you are a non-disabled person. She basically has all the fabulous words and Rocco and Christy just stumble through this episode as they sit in awe of all this wisdom. Or in jealousy of this location independent lifestyle. Certainly not in lack of preparation or a fog settling over cognition--never that.

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Today’s Guest is Catarina Rivera, MSEd, MPH, CPACC: https://www.catarinarivera.com/ 

Today’s sponsor is the creator of The Disability Tangent cover art Emily Krejci. You can visit her shop at Emily Krejci Shop (Sponsor of this episode and designer of our logo) on RedBubble: https://www.redbubble.com/people/ek212/shop

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• Show Notes with Time Stamps 

• Website: https://www.catarinarivera.com/ 

• Additional Resources

• 48:43- bemyeyes (app)

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Gavin Neate, founder of WelcoME joins us to chat about making venues accessible, making tech sustainable, making community a priority, and making sourdough bread. That's right, we can make a tangent out of most any topic, friends, and this episode has a few. Gavin is masterful in getting us back around to the point, which is getting WelcoME (or something like it... but we prefer his company--in both senses of the word) to these United States, and the world. That's right. It's only our first episode and we are seeking to take over the world! With disability justice and customer service!

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Gavin Neate: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavin-neate/ 

WelcoMe: https://www.wel-co.me/ 

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TIME STAMPS:

3:35   Guide Dogs for the Blind   US:https://www.guidedog.org/gd/about/gd/about-us/about-the-guide-dog-foundation.aspx?hkey=64d8cbca-ff0e-42ea-afeb-9cbe79a38a1b

US: https://www.guidedogs.com/ 

UK: https://www.guidedogs.org.uk/about-us/ 

18:53  Spoon Theory explanation: https://www.drfanaee.com/blog/what-is-spoon-theory#:~:text=Summary,eople%20without%20illness%20and%20disability. 

20:30  Guide to language of disability across cultures (handicapped vs disabled): https://unitedspinal.org/top-10-disability-etiquette/ 

28:53  Allport’s Contact Theory: https://www.simplypsychology.org/contact-hypothesis.html 

41:24  Pandisability: "Pan-disability" refers to a term that encompasses individuals with disabilities across a wide range of conditions, challenges, and abilities. It emphasizes inclusivity by recognizing and affirming the diverse experiences of people with various disabilities, regardless of the specific nature of their impairments.

53:10  Gavin’s LinkedIn post on What, Why, How: https://www.physiopod.co.uk/what-why-and-how-gavin-neate.shtml 

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Here's a run down of what we are doing and who is doing the deeds! Welcome to the show. The loud one is Christy, and her calmer counterpart is Rocco. Don't be fooled by their scripted opener! They get much more chaotic as the episode progresses. Learn a bit more about them and why they are here.

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