What’s the real business value of DEI? In this episode, Matt speaks with leadership and workplace diversity expert Joe Santana about why DEI has become such a polarizing topic in America, and what the true business case for diversity, equity, and inclusion is that both sides of the aisle miss. They explore how DEI drives innovation, improves decision-making, and reduces risk—and why so many organizations still get it wrong. Whether you're a skeptic, a champion, or somewhere in between, this conversation will change how you think about the value and importance of diversity to EVERYONE in the workplace.