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Paul steps in as an "intern" on the PUDs Podcast without Josh and joins as a full-co-host with Nick to chat with Lyla "Sugar" Harrod! Lyla; commonly known by her trail-name "Sugar", is the first transgender woman to become a Triple Crowner, and she recently created and hiked the incredible "Divide to Crest" route!

Nick takes the long ride to Jay Peak where there's been over 400 inches of snowfall this season, Paul takes on the ladders and tight-spaces of the 52-with-a-View-peaks Morgan and Percival, makes it to North Twin, and the boys have an outstanding conversation with Lyla about her amazing hiking accomplishments, taking the long-trails less-traveled, creating entirely new hiking routes, route-creators, hiking in the desert, sobriety, making a gender transition, and stepping into your true-self and seizing your full-potential, on this kick-Nick-under-the-table-if-he-gets-too-excited-whilst-talking-about-hiking-episode of the PUDs Podcast!

Nick's Music Moment:

Real Life - Hazel English - 2024

Paulie's Playlist:

Neil Diamond & Jim Croce

Episode Links:

Mount Morgan & Mount Percival AllTrails Route

Bay Circuit Trail Website

Lyla's Instagram

Backpacker Magazine Article on Lyla's Divide to Crest Route

Notch Hostel Fireside Chats Information

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