Luke's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-oliver-3054787/

Description:

What happens when carbon markets are treated like any other commodity?

In this episode, Troy Carter speaks with Luke Oliver, Head of Climate Investments at KraneShares, about the evolution of carbon as an asset class—and what that means for climate action.

Luke shares his journey from managing some of the world’s largest commodity ETFs to leading carbon market strategy at KraneShares. Together, they unpack:

• Why compliance carbon markets (Europe, California) are maturing into powerful price signals.

• The volatility and “dot-com bubble” moments of voluntary markets—and what might survive the shakeout.

• The convergence challenge: when and how voluntary credits could integrate into compliance systems.

• Why capital flows depend on predictable demand signals and clear standards.

• A vision for scaling climate finance so it becomes “boring”—stable, investable, and massive in scale.

If you want to understand where finance meets carbon markets - and why liquidity and trust are the missing links—this is an episode not to miss.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Climate Investments

05:56 The Evolution of Carbon Markets

12:02 Compliance vs. Voluntary Carbon Markets

17:45 The Future of Carbon Pricing and Market Dynamics

23:53 Understanding Market Dynamics in Carbon Trading

26:02 Navigating Early Stage Project Investments

27:39 The Role of Compliance in Carbon Markets

30:41 The Future of Carbon Investment Strategies

31:48 Envisioning a Sustainable Future

36:24 Innovative Solutions for Climate Action

39:38 The Economic Case for Ecological Restoration

Stacy's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stacy-kauk-p-eng/

https://isometric.com/

In this episode, Troy Carter sits down with Stacy Kauk, Chief Science Officer at Isometric and former Head of Sustainability at Shopify, to explore how the carbon markets can regain trust and scale responsibly.

Stacy shares her journey from UN climate negotiations to building Shopify’s pioneering carbon removal program, founding Frontier, and now shaping a new kind of registry at Isometric. She and Troy dig into:

• Why speed and responsibility must go hand-in-hand in carbon markets.

• How dynamic baselines, tech-enabled verification, and transparent methodologies can rebuild trust in nature-based credits.

• The role of community engagement and FPIC as the true foundation of durable projects.

• The tension between today’s patchwork of registries and the need for convergence and clear quality bars.

• Why persistence—and intention—matter as much as science in this fight against climate change.

This is a thoughtful, candid conversation on how to make carbon markets work for both people and planet.

Ollie's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/potterollie/

https://www.naturetechmemos.com/

Summary

In this episode of The Earthshot Podcast, Troy Carter sits down with Ollie Potter, founder of NatureTech Memos and strategist at Deloitte, to explore the future of NatureTech and how innovation can move from hype to real-world impact.

Ollie shares what he’s seeing across the climate startup landscape—from the explosion of MRV and CDR providers to overlooked opportunities like invasive species, ocean resilience, and bioprospecting. He also reflects on what corporates are getting right (and wrong) as they engage with climate and nature risk, and why storytelling and problem-first thinking matter more than ever.

Key Takeaways

• We’re in a “second wave” of NatureTech: 400+ MRV and CDR providers, with the most successful solving real problems rather than chasing tech-first hype.

• Invasive species pose massive ecological and economic risks but remain under-discussed—an area ripe for innovation.

• Corporates in mining, energy, and agriculture are beginning to integrate nature-positive strategies, driven by material risk, not just regulation.

• New frontiers like bioprospecting show how ecosystems and AI discovery could create win–win models for conservation and industry.

• At the heart of it all: technology is only as strong as the trust and intention that guide its use.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Nature Tech and Ollie Potter

03:00 The Current Landscape of Nature Tech

06:04 Emerging Trends and Innovations in Nature Tech

08:48 Corporate Engagement in Nature and Sustainability

11:59 Understanding Material Risks in Supply Chains

14:51 The Intersection of Science and Storytelling

17:44 Nature Tech vs Climate Tech: A Comparative Analysis

20:40 Success Stories in Nature Tech

23:36 The Role of AI in Nature Tech

26:26 Ocean Conservation and Innovative Solutions

29:29 Community-Led Conservation Efforts

32:22 The Future of Nature Tech and Closing Thoughts

What does it actually take to keep forests standing—and make that fair for the people who steward them?

Troy Carter sits down with his friend Thibault Sorret, Co-Founder & CEO of Equitable Earth, to unpack a shift from single projects to landscape thinking: protect what’s left, reconnect what’s fragmented, restore where it fits, and build real livelihoods around it. They talk plainly about REDD+, the messy realities of additionality, and why community agency matters as much as any model or tool.

You’ll hear:

• Why Equitable Earth moved decisively into conservation, and what that unlocks for funding

• How to design for whole landscapes (conservation, restoration, agroforestry) rather than one-off fixes

• A practical take on additionality today—and where better instruments might emerge tomorrow

• Why trust is built in the field, not in a spreadsheet

If you work in nature finance—or just care about how these decisions get made—this conversation stays close to the real constraints and the real people doing the work.

Links:

Earthshot Labs: https://www.earthshot.eco/

Thibault's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thibaultsorret/

Equitable Earth: https://www.eq-earth.com/

What does it take to truly finance nature with integrity?

In this episode, Troy Carter speaks with Oliver Bolton, Co-Founder of Earthly, about the realities of building trust in a market that’s often misunderstood. They discuss the gap between ambition and action, why public perception of carbon credits has become so negative, and how to separate high-quality projects from the noise.

Oliver shares his personal journey — from becoming a B Corp founder to dedicating his career to nature after the birth of his son — and why trust and data have become central to Earthly’s mission. Together, Troy and Oliver explore the promise of biodiversity credits, the role of technology like bioacoustics MRV, and how businesses can engage authentically with nature.

If you’re interested in how climate finance is evolving, what’s slowing it down, and where real hope lies, this conversation offers an honest window into the challenges and bright spots of nature markets today.

Links:

Earthshot Labs: https://www.earthshot.eco/

Oliver's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-bolton/

Earthly: https://earthly.org/

John Paul (JP) Moscarella

Co-Founder @ CoolPact Capital & Resilient Earth Capital | Scaling Climate Tech with $1.5B+ in Investments mobilized | Cleantech Pioneer | Carbon credits Pioneer

JP's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jpmoscarella/

Summary:

In this episode of the EarthShot podcast, Troy Carter speaks with JP Moscarella, a veteran in the carbon markets sector, about the evolution of carbon markets over the past three decades. They discuss JP's journey into the field, the lessons learned from past experiences, and the current complexities surrounding compliance and demand in carbon markets. The conversation also touches on the balance between scientific rigor and simplicity in methodologies, the societal engagement needed for effective climate action, and the perception of carbon markets in today's world. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of creating a culture of sustainability and the need for collective action to address climate change.

Takeaways:

JP Moscarella's journey into carbon markets began in the late 80s.

The 1990s served as a pilot phase for carbon markets.

Compliance and demand signals are crucial for market success.

The complexity of compliance across jurisdictions poses challenges.

There is a need for a balance between rigor and simplicity in methodologies.

Societal engagement is essential for the success of nature-based solutions.

Carbon markets are often viewed skeptically, impacting their effectiveness.

Creating a culture of sustainability is vital for future success.

The perception of carbon markets as a scam hinders progress.

Innovative technologies and community involvement are key to advancing carbon markets.

Chapters:

00:00 The Origins of Carbon Markets

07:05 The Evolution of Carbon Market Regulations

12:41 Lessons from 30 Years of Carbon Markets

19:11 The Shift to Voluntary Carbon Markets

22:58 Balancing Rigor and Simplicity in Carbon Projects

25:10 Empowering Local Communities in Project Ownership

26:04 Advancements in Data and Community Engagement

27:30 Connecting Local Economies to Carbon Markets

29:28 The Evolution of Carbon Markets and Public Sentiment

31:18 The Current State of Nature and Environmental Awareness

33:30 The Role of Corporations and Societal Engagement

35:01 The Intersection of Spirituality and Environmentalism

37:23 The Importance of Collective Goals and Community Spirit

39:41 Carbon Credits as an Asset Class

42:37 Overcoming Skepticism and Building Trust

45:12 The Need for Compelling Stories in Sustainability

48:36 The Future of Technology and Environmental Solutions

Lynn Murphy & Alnoor Ladha - Post-Capitalist Philanthropy

“Doing the decolonizing, deprogramming, deconditioning, unlearning work, as well as thinking non-laterally and moving the dominant ontology and dominant cosmology from this rationalist-separatist-materialist worldview to one that's more relational, more quantum, more queer, more based on interbeing, is going to open up vistas of possibility that we can't even imagine from our current vantage point.” -Alnoor Ladha“We’re looking at how do we liberate capital and alchemize wealth in service of life,if you understand the structure how capital markets function they are not in service to life, and they aren’t often looked at through a framework of liberation “-Lynne Murphy

In this episode, host Armando Davila interviews Lynn Murphy and Alnoor Ladha of Transition Resource Circle about our world’s necessary shift beyond late-stage capitalism. This vibrant and out-of-the-box conversation starts with exploring our current economy and why leaving the house of capitalist modernity over the next ten to twenty years is crucial. Then the fun really begins when Lynn and Alnoor Ladha paint a picture of how this shift might look and the tools they are using to catalyze this transition. This radical conversation will open your mind to new ideas and possibilities for shifting beyond capitalism and creating a sustainable future.

IN THIS EPISODE:

RELEVANT LINKS:

Transition Resource Circle: www.transitionresourcecircle.org,

Post Capitalist Philanthropy Book: https://www.postcapitalistphilanthropy.org/

Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco

Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com

“Restoration is not just about planting trees or about making an area look beautiful again. It's about recreating a social ecological system that is more resilient and is more aligned with natural processes.” -Robin Chazdon

This episode features legendary ecologist Robin Chazdon with hosts Armando Davila, Patrick Leung, & Pedro Ribeiro Piffer for an adventure through the world of assisted natural regeneration. Robin discusses active versus passive regeneration, how to increase the capacity of local communities to lead restoration, and the importance of honoring traditional knowledge. Robin then paints a vision of a fair trade carbon market, discusses biodiversity monitoring, and explores the challenges of involving corporations in restoration projects. This rich conversation ends on an inspirational note as Robin skillfully describes how we are all interconnected with each other and the natural world.

IN THIS EPISODE:

RELEVANT LINKS:

Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco

Robin’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-chazdon-96218a59/ 

Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com

Grant Wilson and Michelle Bender of Earth Law Center - Legal Rights of Nature

“How do you give nature a voice within carbon markets?” -Grant Wilson

Grant Wilson, Executive Director of Earth Law Center, & Michelle Bender, Ocean Campaigns Director of Earth Law Center, join hosts Armando Davila & Troy Carter for a discussion about the Rights of Nature Movement. After an overview of how this movement advocates for nature to have rights just as humans do, Grant and Michelle discuss traction that the movement is gaining in Ecuador and New Zealand and explore how this movement can be integrated with the carbon market’s financial approach to protect nature to the fullest extent possible. This deep conversation also includes a heart-centered discussion about how humanity, society, economics, and law are inseparable from nature and also explores the unique challenges of protecting the rights of our oceans. You’ll also learn more about the Earth Law Center and how you can get involved.

IN THIS EPISODE:

RELEVANT LINKS:

Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco

Earth Law Center: https://www.earthlawcenter.org/ 

Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com

“We need all hands on deck in all areas, all sectors, and all approaches. So that means we need governments setting aggressive climate policy and regulation to control as far and fast as possible top-down, we need corporates and industry to do their part and do everything they can to decarbonize and squeeze out emissions…and then we also need market mechanisms like what Verra pioneers and helps manage that bring integrity and the ability for finance to flow to other activities that otherwise wouldn't be supported and are critical for us addressing the climate challenge.” -Toby Janson-Smith

David Antonioli, CEO at Verra, & Toby Jason-Smith, Chief Program Development & Innovation Officer at Verra, join hosts Armando Davila & Oliver Miltenberger for a rich discussion about carbon markets and the importance of standards and transparency. David and Toby begin by introducing us to Verra, a nonprofit organization setting the world’s leading standards for climate action and sustainable development, and continue on to discuss the past, present, and future of the carbon market and its role in addressing the climate crisis. They masterfully address questions, critiques, and challenges alive in the carbon market sector today and discuss what is needed for the carbon market to successfully play its part in creating a sustainable future for all.

IN THIS EPISODE:

RELEVANT LINKS:

Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco

Verra: https://verra.org

Kasigau Project: https://www.innovationforum.co.uk/articles/the-kasigau-corridor-redd-project

Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com