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Guest: Tina H. Boogren https://www.tinaboogren.com/

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Keeping teachers in the profession is one of the biggest challenges facing schools today—but here’s the uncomfortable truth:

👉 Most schools aren’t losing teachers because they can’t teach…

👉 They’re losing them because they don’t feel supported.

In this episode, Courtney and Mario sit down with Dr. Tina Boogren to unpack what new teachers actually need—and why so many leadership teams unintentionally get it wrong.

👉 Overwhelming teachers is not the same as supporting them.

🔥 Big Ideas from This Episode

💡 We’re Not Failing New Teachers… We’re Overwhelming Them

💡 Teachers Stay When They Feel Successful

💡 Support Must Go Beyond Logistics

💡 New Teachers Need 4 Types of Support

💡 Instructional Coaching is the Game Changer

💡 One Mentor Model is Broken

💡 Retention Starts on Day One

⚡ Leadership Actions

✅ Audit Your Support System

✅ Separate Mentoring and Coaching

✅ Prioritize Instruction in Year One

✅ Help Teachers See Their Impact

✅ Simplify the First Year Experience

🎯 Power Quotes

“We think we’re supporting teachers… but we’re actually overwhelming them.”

“If a teacher doesn’t feel like they made a difference, they will quit.”

“Instructional support—not just emotional support—is what keeps teachers in the profession.”

“Make your teachers want to come back tomorrow.”

🎙️ Closing Thought

Teacher retention is not about doing more… it’s about doing the right things well.

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How to grow willing teachers and confront the ones destroying your culture

🎯 Episode Summary

Supporting veteran teachers is one of the most complex and misunderstood responsibilities of school leadership. This episode breaks down Sprouts and Shadows and how to support or confront each to protect your culture.

🔥 Key Takeaway

“If you don’t address shadows directly, they will infect your entire culture.”

🌱 Understanding Sprouts

Sprouts are willing, values-aligned teachers who need confidence and skill development.

“I’ll do it… but can someone show me first?”

Leaders should pair sprouts with strong teachers and provide targeted support through collaboration.

🌑 Understanding Shadows

Shadows are teachers who prioritize their own needs over the school and resist change for personal reasons.

“Shadows don’t just resist… they reshape your culture if left unchecked.”

⚡ The 3 Leadership Options for Shadows

1. Earn the right to resist by being effective.

2. Get on board and grow with support.

3. Find a better fit outside the organization.

“You either get better, get on board… or get out.”

⚠️ Critical Insight

Not all shadows start that way; systems can create them through instability and turnover.

🎯 Final Leadership Shift

Leaders are not the center; teachers are. Your role is to support and protect the culture.

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🎙️ Closing Thought

“The better you understand your people, the more powerful your leadership becomes.”

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Why experienced teachers aren’t one group—and how misunderstanding them leads to failed leadership, stalled culture, and lost influence.

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🎧 Episode Overview

In this episode, Courtney and Mario break down one of the most misunderstood challenges in leadership: leading veteran teachers.
Most leaders treat experienced teachers the same, but they are not the same.
This episode introduces a framework that identifies four distinct types of veteran teachers and how leaders can effectively support them.

💡 Big Ideas from the Conversation

·  Veteran teachers are not one group: Treating them the same leads to leadership failure.

·  Culture is driven by adult behavior: Beliefs drive daily actions in your building.

·  Scouts are your innovation drivers: They push your school forward.

·  Sentinels are culture protectors: They preserve what works.

·   Misreading resistance is dangerous: Not all resistance is negative.

 🧠 Leadership Actions

·       Identify your teacher types: Know who your scouts and sentinels are.

·       Unleash your scouts: Give them room to innovate and test ideas.

·       Honor your sentinels: Respect their experience and insight.

·       Sequence change correctly: Don’t involve everyone at the wrong time.

·       Balance innovation and tradition: Use both to move your school forward.

🎯 Final Thought: Great leaders don’t treat veteran teachers the same; they lead them strategically.

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In this episode, Courtney and Mario take on a hard truth that many schools still avoid: most campuses do not have an instructional strategy problem. They have an instructional leadership problem. When leaders fail to define what quality instruction actually looks like, teachers are left to guess, and students end up experiencing inconsistent learning from room to room.
The conversation pushes past surface-level improvement efforts and challenges the common school habit of trying to fix instruction one strategy, one program, or one initiative at a time. Courtney and Mario argue that leaders must build a coherent instructional program with a clear vision, shared language, meaningful monitoring, coaching, and teacher ownership.
More than a critique, this episode is a practical roadmap for leaders who want instruction to stop being random and start becoming systemic.

💡 Big Ideas from the Conversation

Random acts of instructional improvement do not create a real program.

An instructional vision is not just a collection of strategies.

If leaders do not define instruction, every classroom becomes a private interpretation.

Good lesson planning is about intentional design, not compliance paperwork.

Resources are not instruction.

 Monitoring instruction should be growth-based, not deficit-based.

Walkthroughs alone will not improve instruction. Reflection will.

An effective instructional program is systemic.

🧠 Leadership Actions Recommended in This Episode
1. Build a clear instructional vision
Define what quality instruction looks and sounds like at the daily lesson level. Make the vision concrete enough that teachers can use it in planning and practice.
2. Create a common instructional vocabulary
Clarify what key terms mean in your setting so that feedback, planning, and coaching all happen with shared understanding.
3. Train teachers to translate the vision into lesson design
Do not assume teachers automatically know how to move from a broad instructional framework to daily lesson preparation. Teach that process directly.
4. Stop treating lesson plans like compliance documents
Use lesson planning to focus on whether instruction has been intentionally designed.
5. Monitor instruction with visible measures tied to the vision
Build clear, measurable indicators that show where teachers are strong and where they can improve within the instructional framework.
6. Use instructional data for coaching, not just evaluation
Create feedback systems that help teachers polish practice rather than simply labeling performance in deficit terms.
7. Let professional learning grow out of actual instructional data
Use schoolwide patterns and teacher-specific feedback to shape PD that is targeted, relevant, and useful.
8. Use teachers as part of the development process
When teachers excel in specific parts of the framework, create opportunities for peers to observe them, learn from them, and be coached by them.
9. Bring teachers fully into the improvement cycle
Reflection, collaboration, and ownership must be part of the system.
10. Audit your instructional program before next year begins
Use this episode as a leadership audit: vision, vocabulary, teacher training, monitoring, coaching, and reflection. If one of those pieces is missing, your program is incomplete.

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If you’re a veteran leader, do you ever stop needing mentorship?

In this episode, Courtney and Mario reflect on their conversation with longtime mentor Dr. Phil Warrick and unpack the leadership lessons that have shaped their careers for over 20 years. 

They explore how even experienced leaders still need guidance, how mentorship evolves over time, and why the best leaders never stop learning from others.

The conversation dives into key leadership themes including systems leadership, decision-making, personal leadership growth, and legacy building. Courtney and Mario translate these lessons into practical strategies that leaders can apply immediately.

💡 Big Ideas from the Conversation

Mentorship never expires

Even veteran leaders still benefit from mentorship. Growth doesn’t stop with experience—it deepens through continued guidance and reflection. 

Motion is not progress

Leaders can stay busy all day without actually moving the organization forward. Clarity of priorities matters more than activity. 

Know what you believe

Strong leaders anchor themselves in clear beliefs and priorities so they are not pulled in every direction by new initiatives or external pressures. 

Slow down to lead better

Rushed decision-making leads to mistakes. Great leaders take time to gather information, involve others, and act with purpose. 

Systems create better decisions

Effective systems, protocols, and practice allow leaders to make thoughtful decisions even in high-pressure situations. 

Build leaders, not followers

The true role of leadership is developing others. Strong leaders intentionally grow future leaders through both coaching and real opportunities. 

Self-awareness drives leadership growth

Understanding your strengths—and how they evolve over time—is critical to growing into higher levels of leadership. 

Legacy is the ultimate measure of leadership

Great leaders leave something bigger behind by developing others who continue the work after them. 

🧠 Leadership Actions Recommended in This Episode

1. Write down what you believe

Document your leadership priorities and revisit them regularly so you can stay grounded when distractions arise. 

2. Stop chasing everything

Be intentional about what you focus on. If you add something new, remove something else to maintain quality. 

3. Build a strategic plan

Break vision into actionable steps over time—weeks, months, and years—to create clarity and direction. 

4. Practice your systems before you need them

Don’t wait for high-pressure moments. Build and rehearse systems so you can make strong decisions when it matters most. 

5. Mentor through questions and opportunities

Ask reflective questions, but also give people real ownership so they can experience leadership firsthand. 

6. Slow down your decision-making

Resist the pressure to move fast. Take time to gather input and make thoughtful, intentional decisions. 

7. Apologize without excuses

When you make a mistake, own it fully. Trust is rebuilt through honest accountability. 

8. Know your strengths and build around them

Understand your strengths and surround yourself with people who complement you. 

9. Build your leadership bench

Prepare others to step into leadership roles so your organization continues to grow beyond you. 

10. Lead with legacy in mind

Focus on developing people who will carry the work forward and make the organization stronger over time. 

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Episode Overview

In this special guest episode, Courtney and Mario sit down with Dr. Phil Warrick, a leader who helped launch both of their leadership journeys and whose influence still shapes how they think about schools, systems, and people. Phil reflects on the role of mentors in leadership, why great leaders must build future leaders rather than followers, and what schools get wrong when they chase too many initiatives instead of building coherent systems. He also shares lessons from his own leadership missteps, explains why new principals must slow down before making major decisions, and offers practical wisdom on strengths-based leadership, life priorities, and building legacy through the leaders who come after you. More than an interview, this conversation feels like a mentoring session for anyone trying to lead schools with clarity, purpose, and humility.

Big Ideas from the Conversation

Mentorship remains essential at every stage of leadership—no leader outgrows the need to learn from those who have walked ahead. The true role of a leader is to develop future leaders, not followers. 

Focus is critical. Schools lose effectiveness when they pursue too many initiatives at once, stretching staff capacity. 

New leaders often misjudge the shift from offering suggestions to making decisions. Leadership accelerates the pace of decision-making, but effective leaders resist reacting too quickly. 

Building strong teams requires self-awareness. Leaders must understand their own strengths, manage them effectively, and intentionally surround themselves with people whose strengths complement their own.

Ultimately, leadership must be purpose-driven. To sustain this, leaders must continually realign with their core priorities, ensuring leadership does not overtake what matters most.

Leadership Actions Recommended in This Episode

1. Build future leaders, not followers. Evaluate your leadership by looking at the people you are developing. 

2. Know what you believe. Write down the two or three core beliefs you hold about excellent schools and leadership. Use those beliefs to guide decisions and protect yourself from chasing every new initiative.

3. Slow down major decisions. When you are new to leadership, resist the urge to decide too quickly. Gather context, ask questions, and remember that a thoughtful decision is usually better than a fast one.

4. Know and manage your strengths. Use self-awareness tools and reflection to identify your natural strengths, and where overusing them could become a weakness.

5. Hire and develop complementary people. Build teams with people whose strengths differ from your own. Let them lead meaningful work so they grow into future leadership roles.

6. Practice honest, humane accountability. When someone is not the right fit, be direct and respectful. Treat people the way you would want to be treated and help them find a better path when needed.

7. Write out your life priorities. Create a clear list of your top personal priorities and revisit it when leadership starts to pull you off course. 

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Leadership can be incredibly lonely. Not because leaders do not work with people, but because when the final decision has to be made, the responsibility lands on one person. In this episode, Courtney and Mario unpack the emotional weight that principals, superintendents, and other leaders carry when they are forced to own mistakes they did not create, stand in front of angry communities without being able to share the full story, or absorb criticism while protecting students and staff. Drawing on stories from their years as school leaders, they explore the loneliness of public attacks, confidential personnel situations, campus crises, and social media blowback. But this episode does not stop at the problem. Courtney and Mario also offer practical strategies for surviving leadership loneliness, including building a trusted number two, forming a peer circle, seeking outside support when needed, and returning to students and great teachers to reconnect with purpose.

Big Ideas from the Conversation
Leadership is lonely because responsibility is personal. Even in collaborative cultures with strong teams, the final decision and the fallout belong to one person. Leaders often have to own mistakes they did not make. Whether it is a staff error, a community backlash, or a crisis, the leader becomes the face of the organization. Confidential situations intensify isolation. There are moments when leaders are holding information they legally or ethically cannot share, yet they still absorb the criticism that comes from the silence. Social media multiplies pressure and misinformation. In the absence of information, people create their own stories, and leaders often take the hit publicly for things outside their control. Great leaders do not survive loneliness by pretending they are fine. They survive it by building trusted support systems. A strong number two, a peer circle, and honest outside support can keep leaders from making isolated decisions or carrying the emotional load alone. The best antidote on hard days is often to reconnect with the why. Spending time with students, great teachers, and joyful parts of the campus can help leaders remember why the work matters.

Leadership Actions Recommended in This Episode
1. Build a trusted number two. Every great leader needs one person who can hear the hard stuff, challenge their thinking, keep confidence, and help sharpen tough decisions.
2. Create a leadership peer circle. Do not stay alone in the role. Build relationships with people doing the same job so you can problem solve, vent honestly, and share perspective.
3. Ask for support when the moment is bigger than you. District leaders should stand beside campus leaders during community crises, and individual leaders should seek counseling or outside support when the loneliness gets too heavy.
4. Reconnect with your why on the hardest days. When the weight of the role feels overwhelming, go find students, great teachers, and joyful learning moments that remind you why the work matters.
5. Know when to pause. Strength is not just about carrying more. Sometimes the strongest move is to stop, get perspective, and restore your own emotional and social balance before pressing on.
6. Do not let loneliness make your decisions for you. Important decisions are better when another trusted voice helps you think through nuance, consequences, and better options.

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Great leaders do not usually leave because the work is hard. They leave because of the climate created by the leaders above them. In this episode, Courtney and Mario unpack the hidden organizational patterns that drive strong leaders away: ignored feedback, broken feedback loops, imposed decisions without explanation, micromanagement, initiative chaos, lack of strategic direction, and disrespectful treatment. The conversation is aimed at both leaders and leaders of leaders, making the case that retention is not mainly about pay or title. It is about whether people feel heard, trusted, respected, supported, and able to do meaningful work. Through personal stories and practical examples, they challenge principals, district leaders, and executive leaders to examine the culture they are creating for the people they lead.

Big Ideas from the Conversation 

Feedback loops matter. Asking for input without closing the loop makes leaders feel used, devalued, and ignored. Voice creates commitment. When leaders do not have a seat at the table, they disengage quickly. Micromanagement drives out strong people. High-will, high-skill leaders do not want to be controlled; they want to be trusted and coached appropriately. Initiative chaos destroys focus. Constantly changing priorities and throwing out work that is just beginning to take root makes it impossible for leaders to build anything sustainable. Strategic consistency calms organizations. Leaders need a clear roadmap, a few key conditions, and the discipline to stay focused over time. Trust and respect are foundational. Leaders can tolerate hard feedback, but they will disengage when the feedback becomes disrespectful or when they sense bad intent. Kindness and humility matter. Leaders do not have to be charismatic, but they do have to be good humans who create climates where people feel valued, respected, supported, and heard.

Leadership Actions Recommended in This Episode 

1. Create real feedback loops Ask your leaders for input, but do not stop there. Close the loop by explaining what decision was made, whether the feedback shaped it, and why the final direction was taken.

2. Match your coaching style to the person Do not lead everyone the same way. Be an author for low-skill, coachable leaders who need more structure, an editor for developing leaders who need feedback and guardrails, and an influencer for high-will, high-skill leaders who need trust and thoughtful coaching.

3. Reduce initiative chaos Stop changing direction every year or piling on new priorities without removing old ones. Build a roadmap, focus on a few important conditions, and stay disciplined long enough for people to get good at the work.

4. Protect autonomy, competence, and relatedness Give leaders the room to lead, support them where they need growth, and make sure the work you ask them to do actually connects to the communities they serve.

5. Address disrespect immediately People can handle hard feedback, but they will not stay in environments where they are belittled, publicly diminished, or treated with disrespect. If one of your leaders is treating people that way, it must be addressed.

6. Audit your own leadership climate Ask yourself four questions: Do my leaders trust me? Do they feel respected? Do they feel supported? Do they believe their voice matters here? The answers will tell you whether your best people are likely to stay.

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Daily habits, smarter priorities, and real boundaries that keep the job from taking over.

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Episode Overview

Leadership in schools is never finished. There is always another email, another crisis, another initiative demanding attention. But when leaders allow the job to consume every ounce of their time and energy, something else begins to erode—marriage, family presence, health, and emotional capacity. In this deeply personal episode, Courtney and Mario share what it actually looks like to pursue work-life balance in high-capacity leadership roles. Drawing from their experience leading large high schools simultaneously, they unpack the traps that lead to burnout and the intentional systems that protect both professional excellence and personal well-being.

Big Ideas from This Episode

• The work will never be finished—prioritization is a leadership skill.

• Burnout lowers your leadership ceiling (The Law of the Lid – John Maxwell).

• Activity is not accomplishment (The Law of Priorities).

• Burned-out leaders create burned-out cultures.

• Glass balls vs. rubber balls: know what must be caught today and what can bounce.

• Relationships at home feel your leadership more than your campus does.

• Sustainable leadership requires visible boundaries.

Leadership Actions Recommended

1. Identify Your Top Three Daily Priorities.

Before the day begins, determine the two or three non-negotiables that must be completed. Everything else is secondary.

2. Build Intentional Morning or Evening Routines.

Create structure that protects your most important relationships. Even small daily rituals create stability and connection.

3. Communicate Capacity Honestly.

Use the ‘percentage’ conversation at home—some days you may only be able to give 40%. Partnership requires transparency.

4. Model Healthy Boundaries for Your Team.

Leave at a reasonable time. Take vacation. Avoid midnight emails. Your behavior sets the cultural norm.

5. Know Your Burnout Signals.

Emotional exhaustion, irritability, anxiety, and detachment are warning signs. Address them early before they escalate.

Resources Mentioned

• Maxwell, J. (2007). The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership.

• Sharma, R. (2018). The 5 AM Club.

• McKeown, G. (2014). Essentialism.

• Brown, B. (2018). Dare to Lead.

• Cloud, H., & Townsend, J. (1992). Boundaries.

• Marsh, N. (TED Talk). How to Make Work-Life Balance Work.

Closing Thought

Leadership is not measured by how late you stay; it is measured by what you sustain. The job will still be there tomorrow. The people at your dinner table won’t always be this age. Lead well. Live well.

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Too many schools say they believe in intervention, but what they actually have is a delayed reaction: waiting for benchmark scores, state tests, or “proof” while learning gaps rapidly widen. In this episode, Courtney and Mario unpack what real intervention looks like when it’s designed as a system built into the school day, driven by strong formative data, and focused on essential learning. They also walk through practical structures like Flex Time/WIN time, clarify Tier 1–3 responsibilities, and explain why interventions must close gaps inside the context of grade-level learning and not as random pullouts.  

The throughline: if your plan depends on teacher sacrifice or after-school attendance, it will miss the students who need it most.

Big Ideas from the Conversation 

·      Stop the delayed reaction: how to bake timely, directive support into the school day (without burning out teachers).

·      Intervention is a system, not a schedule add-on. 

·      If you’re waiting on state test data, it’s already too late. “Poop in, poop out”: weak inputs (especially large-scale standardized tests) create weak intervention decisions. 

·      Formative assessment tied to essential standards is the best intervention data. 

·      Technology can make individualized support doable at scale without drowning teachers in manual tracking. 

·      Effective intervention must be baked into the school day (Flex/WIN/academic labs), not dependent on before/after-school. 

·      Tier 2 cannot compensate for weak Tier 1 instruction; Tier 1 should produce ~80–90% mastery through reteach + reassess. 

·      Tier 2 should be timely, directive, and systematic and not optional for students who need it. 

·      Close gaps within the context of grade-level content to reduce cognitive load and build real transfer.

Leadership Actions Recommended in This Episode 

1. Build the right data inputs before you build the system. Audit your current data sources and ask: Which of these actually helps teachers adjust instruction tomorrow? Increase the weight of formative, in-the-moment checks aligned to essential learning and reduce overreliance on large standardized/benchmark snapshots.

2. Define essential learning before tracking anything. Work with teams to identify the critical standards/big ideas that matter most. Intervention cannot be precise if the target is unclear.

3. Bake intervention time into the master schedule. Design Flex/WIN/academic lab time during the school day so every student can access support especially bus riders, athletes, and students with responsibilities after school.

4. Make Tier 2 timely, directive, and systematic. Keep student choice where it helps, but don’t leave support to chance. Use classroom data to pull students by topic and need, then re-check progress in short cycles.

5. Strengthen Tier 1 so Tier 2 isn’t a rescue mission. Coach for reteach + reassess routines and set clear expectations that Tier 1 is responsible for the vas

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