Elizabeth and Roger discuss a range of topics: #Blackintheivory, external validation, lessons from grant applications, endowed professors, and more.
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 Ibram Kendi
  Breathing Race into the Machine, Lundy Braun
  Racism: Science and Tools for the Public Health Professional, Chandra Ford
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