In this 2019 conversation, 4 years before LLMs gained mainstream popularity, Sim dives deep into the world of tech critique and the ego of metrics with Ben Grosser, an artist and scholar whose work focuses on the cultural, social, and political effects of software. They discuss the nuances of critiquing technology, the role of art in this domain, and how software shapes user behavior and vice versa.

Guest bio

Ben Grosser creates interactive experiences, machines, and systems that examine the cultural, social, and political implications of software. His works have been featured in The New Yorker, Wired, The Atlantic, and many other publications. Ben is also an Associate Professor at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign.

Key points

• Ben shares insights into the world of tech critique and the importance of understanding the implications of software on society.
• The conversation touches upon the role of art in critiquing technology and how it can offer unique perspectives.
• They discuss the challenges and rewards of creating art that critiques tech, and how such art can lead to broader discussions and reflections.
• Ben also mentions his experiences as an educator and the importance of fostering critical thinking in students.