From the corridors of the White House to the launch pads of NASA, we welcome space journalist and The Endless Void host, Kristin Fisher, for a sweeping conversation that bridges space exploration, UFOs, and the deeper questions of human existence.

Born into a family of NASA astronauts, Kristin shares her remarkable journey from political journalism to becoming one of today’s leading voices covering space and UAPs. Ryan and Kristin dive deep into the historic Artemis II mission, what it means for the future of human spaceflight, and the emotional (and very real) risks astronauts face every time they leave Earth. Kristin also recounts her firsthand experiences at major space events, her coverage of congressional UFO hearings, and what it was like questioning top Pentagon officials about the ongoing push for UAP disclosure.

From David Grusch’s explosive claims and the mystery of crash retrieval programs to Avi Loeb’s interstellar theories and the growing conversation around consciousness in space, this episode explores the intersection of science, secrecy, and the unknown. Are we on the verge of real disclosure? What is the government actually hiding? And how do we begin to reconcile the possibility that we are not alone?

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