In this thought-provoking episode, Pam and Oliver Grenham discuss the vital role of systems leadership in creating sustainable, effective change across an organization. Oliver emphasizes how good systems empower people and foster innovation, and he also shares insights from his co-authored book with Pam, Pioneers of Personalized Education. Together, they explore how structure and vision work hand in hand to transform schools.

Pam sits down with Lori Goldstein to discuss her journey through leadership in education, public service, and elected office. Lori shares how her passion for serving others led her to school boards and political leadership, and how each opportunity helped her grow as both a leader and community advocate. Her story is a testament to how embracing life’s opportunities can create meaningful change.

In this heartfelt conversation, Pam and Kirk Leday dive into the nuances of human resource management and the art of leading with compassion. Kirk unpacks the importance of balancing high expectations with grace, understanding, and care for the people who make schools thrive. With authenticity and humor, he reminds us that effective leadership begins with empathy and humanity.

Explore how athletics can shape and strengthen student leadership. Gabe shares how sports build resilience, teamwork, and confidence, revealing the power of coaching and mentorship to unlock potential.

Up and Comers with Mason & Sophie: Hear directly from the next generation of leaders — students. Mason and Sophie share candid insights on leadership, learning, and growing up as the children of educators. Their authentic voices remind us that wisdom often comes from the youngest among us.

🎙 Lessons from the Chair - Featuring Charlotte Ciancio & Dr. Chris Fiedler 🎙

Listen now to the entrustED podcast with a powerful episode featuring two seasoned CEOs in education: Charlotte Ciancio and Dr. Chris Fiedler.

These retired superintendents led major district transformations, from policy innovation and bond measures to navigating rapid growth and a global pandemic. In this candid conversation, they share the surprises, triumphs, and “you can’t make this up” moments of leadership at the highest level, plus a friendly “battle of the isms” you won’t want to miss.

Whether you’re growing into leadership or simply curious about life in the superintendent’s seat, this episode is the perfect finale to an inspiring first season.

👉 Tune in for reflection, laughter, and real-world lessons.

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🎙 Courageous Conversations - Featuring Claudette Trujillo🎙

Leadership isn’t just about big decisions - it’s about the hard conversations that come with them. In this episode of the entrustED, we sit down with Claudette Trujillo - visionary leader, published author, and national speaker - to explore how empathy and honesty drive meaningful leadership.

From guiding teams through tough transitions to addressing performance with clarity and care, Claudette shares practical wisdom on leading with conviction, communication, and heart.

👉 Tune in for a powerful conversation on the moments that define us as leaders

🎙 Leading in Polarizing Times - Featuring Rep. Shannon Bird 🎙

What does it take to lead in times of deep political divide? Colorado State Representative Shannon Bird has been there - rising from PTA volunteer to City Council member to the Joint Budget Committee, where real decisions are made.

In this episode of the entrustED, Shannon shares her powerful journey in public service, the challenges of governing in a polarized climate, and the wisdom, courage, and resilience that keep her grounded.

👉 Tune in for a candid conversation about leadership, opposition, and staying true to your values - especially when it’s hard.

🎙 Saint & Survivors — Featuring Ken Ciancio 🎙

Leadership isn’t a solo act - it’s a team sport built on resilience, courage, and collaboration. In this episode of the entrustED, we sit down with Ken Ciancio to talk about the realities of public service and what it truly takes to represent and uplift a community.

From navigating challenges to mentoring future leaders, Ken shares powerful insights on partnership, legacy, and leading through both support and struggle.

👉 Tune in for an authentic conversation about leadership in action- and the strength that comes from standing together.

Leadership Strength & Vulnerability — Bret Miles

True leadership isn’t just about being strong - it’s about being authentic, vulnerable, and willing to grow. In this episode of the entrustED, we sit down with Bret Miles, Executive Director of the Colorado Association of School Executives, to explore the powerful balance between confidence and humility.

From teacher to superintendent to advocate, Bret shares honest stories and hard-won lessons on building trust, learning from failure, and leading with heart.

Tune in for an inspiring conversation on leading with strength, vulnerability, and purpose.