The EscapeGoat Podcast

We're back, talking more Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975)! This time, John and I are joined by the fantastic Laura Carseldine.

After some chat about the film and our fandom, we have a look at the original novel by Peter Benchley, and some of the differences between the source material and the movie adaptation. SPOILERS for the book, by the way! One of them in particular blows my mind. Then we have a discussion of the movie sequels, and their sublime and escalating ridiculousness.

You can listen to part 1 (featuring Simon) here.

0.00 Intro chat/Jaws (the film)

1.03 Jaws (the novel)

1.41 the later Jaws film franchise

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John has been watching and talking about television comedy since people repeatedly started singing the theme tune to 1980s sitcom Dear John at him. He has also been on quite a few episodes of the show now - including a fab conversation about two very different 90s sitcom endings. And, of course, And Ninthly (which will be back very soon...)

Laura is an all-round extraordinary person of no fixed abode. She can be contacted by putting some chum in the water.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

The audiobook of Jaws by Peter Benchley can currently be listened to on YouTube here, read by Erik Steele. Recommended if you're unfamiliar with it, I really enjoyed it!

By the way, at roughly the same time we recorded this episode (and its pt 1), friends of the show Kit Power and Jack Graham recorded (with their friend Ellliot Chapman) this excellent chat about Jaws! By complete coincidence! Please do give it a listen, it's great.

In a first for the show, we're doing a two-parter! On obscure movie curio Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975). He Is Risen.

For this initial part, I'm joined by returning shipmate John and guest skipper the brilliant Simon Barraclough. Together, we start getting our teeth into The Big Fish Film. *WARNING* may contain poetry.

Stay tuned for pt 2....

0.00 A Trip to Amity

1.01 On The Boat

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. All our episodes so far are on Spotify, our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do spread the word! We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

John has been watching and talking about television comedy since people repeatedly started singing the theme tune to 1980s sitcom Dear John at him. He has also been on quite a few episodes of the show now - including a fab conversation about two very different 90s sitcom endings. And, of course, And Ninthly (which will be back soon...)

Simon is a poet, writer and editor who used to have a fear of mechanical sharks. Usually found in the cinema or between the pages of a book. There's more at simonbarraclough.com

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

You can watch that clip of The Doomsday Machine here. And Alex Under deserves credit, always.

By the way, at roughly the same time we recorded this episode (and its pt 2), friends of the show Kit Power and Jack Graham recorded (with their friend Ellliot Chapman) this excellent chat about Jaws! By complete coincidence! Please do give it a listen, it's great.

This week, the brilliant James S. Murphy returns to the show, to chat about The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy series (mostly the books, but we touch on some other forms too) and more specifically, the fifth book, Mostly Harmless (1992, Douglas Adams) which we really get into in the second half. A complete and total pleasure, from start to finish - hope it is for you all too! And Don't Panic.

0.00 Intro/preamble

0.08 pt 1

1.14 pt 2

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. All our episodes so far are on Spotify, our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts! Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

James podcasts regularly at Pex Lives, about Doctor Who, Bob Dylan and whatever else he pleases. He also co-hosts the marvellous Pop Could Never Save Us (check it out!) He can be got on Twitter via @jameslatrmurphy.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Ladies and Gentlemen.. Mr Peter Davison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HLy27bK-wU

On this episode, Nannina drops in to chat to me about two movies which kind of orbit the concept of 'Screwball'.... Holiday (1938, George Cukor) starring Katharine Hepburn and Cary Grant, and The Hudsucker Proxy (1994, Joel and Ethan Coen) starring Tim Robbins and Jennifer Jason Leigh. I'm watching Holiday for the first time, Nannina is watching Hudsucker for the first time.... what did we think??? Find out by listening!

0.00 Intro

0.07 Holiday

1.00 The Hudsucker Proxy

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. All our episodes are on Spotify, our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show.

Nannina is a screenwriter, who procrastinates at writing by going down deep research wormholes into alternate dimensions. She supports her writing habit by making coffee, and can be found on Twitter via @NanninaGilder talking about early women filmmakers.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Here's a pretty good overview piece on the reasons why George Cukor might have been 'let go' from Gone With The Wind.

This Salon piece from 2010 is perhaps a good starting point for the 'Magical N' trope that we refer to in discussing Hudsucker (and it namechecks that movie).

Welcome to Series 4! We're back with a fresh run in 2023. And we're kicking off by welcoming back the wonderful Kit Power, to talk to me about his new essay collection, My Life in Horror Volume II! Join us as we talk about whether the Nightmare on Elm St movies ever lived up to their potential, whether Bruce Springsteen is a horror writer, why Superman III is utterly terrifying, and much much more!

0.00 Intro

0.08 pt 1 - General chat about My Life in Horror Volume II

pt 2 - A closer look at some of the essays

0.47 I Had A Job, I Had A Girl (Born in the USA)

1.03 You've Been on my Nerves for a Long Time (Superman III)

1.24 Obnoxious, Self-Righteous Sadists (Smoking)

1.43 If Only There Is Something We Could Have Done (XCOM)

2.01 El Eye Vee, Ee Are Pee, Double Oh El (Cracker)

2.25 We Will Bury You (Confessions of a Reluctant Barman)

You can buy Kit's new book here via Amazon, either in physical form or for Kindle (and Volume I here), or you can of course get your local bookshop or library (at least in the UK) to order it. Please do - it's a real experience!

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. All our episodes so far are on Spotify, our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts! We are also now on Patreon. Do share and enjoy.

Kit Power lives in Milton Keynes and writes horror and dark crime fiction, with occasional forays into dystopian science fiction. His fiction work includes a novel, 'GodBomb!', and a novella collection 'Breaking Point', two short story collections ('A Warning About Your Future Enslavement That You Will Dismiss As A Collection Of Short Fiction And Essays By Kit Power' and 'Voices') and novellas 'The Finite' and 'A Song For The End'. He also writes non-fiction (https://www.gingernutsofhorror.com/my-life-in-horror.html with Volume 1 and 2 also available in book format) and has a limited hardback available on the subject of Ken Russell's movie Tommy. In his increasingly inaccurately labelled spare time, he podcasts - on his own show, Watching Robocop With Kit Power, What The Hell Is Wrong With Us? with George Lea, and a Patreon exclusive show on the Sherlock Holmes canon with Jack Graham. For weekly early access to his fiction, non-fiction, and podcasting work, visit www.patreon.com/kitpower. He has also been on four previous episodes of The EscapeGoat Podcast, discussing each part of the original UK House of Cards Trilogy in turn and then the Stephen King short story collection Skeleton Crew. Check them out!

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Kit actually recorded an episode of Jack Graham's Shabcast back in early 2020, to promote and discuss Volume I of MLiH - you can listen to that episode here (and should!)

The music at the beginning of this EscapeGoat episode is a clip from a peculiar rights-challenged Hip Hop oddity - if you're not aware of it, the video can be viewed here.

We're back! With an autumn special, before a new series in 2023.

I welcome once again to the show both Matt and George! After an introductory chat, mostly about our recent Halloween/horror experiences (and the recent Hellraiser movie)... we move onto our main topic... the Cosgrove Hall UK animated classic Count Duckula (ITV, 1988-1993). Including a bit of animation history context from former guest Dru... and our most special guest ever... the inimitable Doreen Edwards (vocalist of the Count Duckula theme tune) We hope it's fun!

Stick around after the credits for me and George having a chat about the cult comedy-horror hit Don't Hug Me I'm Scared (YouTube/Channel 4, 2011-16, 2022-).

0.00 Intro/Halloween 2022 preamble

0.16 Hellraiser (2022)

0.30 Count Duckula pt 1

0.56 The History of Cosgrove Hall (with Dru)

1.18 Count Duckula pt 2

1.32 Interview with Doreen Edwards (vocalist of Count Duckula theme)

1.46 Count Duckula pt 3

1.58 Don't Hug Me I'm Scared

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. All our episodes so far are on Spotify, our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts! Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

Matt and Mike can be found on YouTube with their regular co-hosted movie analysis show 'Matt and Mike Pull Focus' - Matt has previously appeared on several episodes of this show - most recently, our episode on The Batman.

George is a prolific YouTube creator, mostly on videogames, pop culture and literature, whose channel can be found here. His horror fiction and reviews can be discovered on his website Strange Playgrounds. He can be reached on Twitter on @EnigmaticElegy. He has previously featured on this podcast talking about Gormenghast, The Flight of Dragons, and Terry Pratchett's Johnny Maxwell Trilogy and I had the honour of featuring on his channel talking about the Amiga500 era of gaming!

Dru (our animation expert) previously appeared on our episodes about Who Framed Roger Rabbit and the Road Runner cartoons. Highly recommended.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

So... here's George talking about Hellraiser (2022).

Here's George and Kit Power (also a previous guest on this show!) and Alasdair Stuart talking about Cosgrove Hall too, with focus on The Wind In The Willows.

I've got no idea about the legality of this... but this YouTube channel is your easiest pathway to watching a lot of Count Duckula. Enjoy!

Doreen Edwards is a living legend, and you can hear the full version of that interview on Matt and Mike Pull Focus' channel. Furthermore, her work with Distant Cousins is outstanding. Start maybe with You Used To (which has been in my head for most of this year...)

and, of course... the original Don't Hug Me I'm Scared material can be found on their YouTube channel. And the new stuff on Channel 4.

Here it is - the last episode of our third series! In which returning guest Nannina and new guest Lauren Humphries-Brooks join me to chat about three amazing Werner Herzog movies, Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972), Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979) and Fitzcarraldo (1982). And also Bob's Burgers, obviously.

Thank you so much to all our guests this year, and everyone who has listened. The EscapeGoat Podcast will return....

0.00 Intro/preamble

0.19 our backgrounds with Herzog's movies

0.32 Aguirre, the Wrath of God

1.02 Nosferatu the Vampyre

1.31 Fitzcarraldo

1.46 Wrap-up

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. All our episodes are on Spotify, our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show.

Nannina is a screenwriter, who procrastinates at writing by going down deep research wormholes into alternate dimensions. She supports her writing habit by making coffee, and can be found on Twitter via @NanninaGilder talking about early women filmmakers.

Lauren is a writer, editor, and media journalist. She regularly contributes to film and pop culture websites, and has written extensively on Classical Hollywood, British horror films, and the sci-fi, fantasy, and horror genres. She is the co-host of the Citizen Dame podcast. She can be found on Twitter via @lhbizness.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

A couple of podcast recommendations... firstly, the Cult Movies Podcast, which works through the films written about by Danny Peary in Cult Movies, did an Aguirre episode last year. Secondly, They Must Be Destroyed on Sight! did an episode a few years ago (featuring Jack Graham, who has been on this show) chatting about both Nosferatu versions. Both recommended.

The Herzog commentary about Fitzcarraldo can be found on YouTube - and you can probably find a few others on there too, alongside the interview which I use a clip of in the middle of this episode.

On this episode of And Ninthly... David and John take on the sixth episode of Series 7, 'Wise Owl', aired on 1 June 2022. Spoilers as always (and, on that note, trigger warnings for discusions of abuse).

After that (and a short break) we give our respective rankings of Series 7 of IN9, and some final thoughts! Skip ahead to 1h 7mins for that bit.

If you want to hear previous chats of David and John about IN9, it's been the subject of a few The EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links!

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

Pemberton and Shearsmith record their own podcast for BBC Sounds, Inside Inside No 9, which usually features interesting material about the shows' productions and creative decisions. Well worth a listen!

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

On this episode of And Ninthly... David and John have a discussion about the fifth episode of Series 7, 'A Random Act of Kindness', aired on 25 May 2022.

If you want to hear previous chats of David and John about IN9, it's been the subject of a few The EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links!

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

Pemberton and Shearsmith record their own podcast for BBC Sounds, Inside Inside No 9, which usually features interesting material about the shows' productions and creative decisions. Well worth a listen!

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

On this episode of And Ninthly... David and John get carried away by the fourth episode of Series 7, 'Kid/Nap', aired on 18 May 2022. If you want to hear previous chats of David and John about IN9, it's been the subject of a few The EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links!

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

As mentioned on the show, Pemberton and Shearsmith record their own podcast for BBC Sounds, Inside Inside No 9, which usually features interesting material about the shows' productions and creative decisions. Well worth a listen!

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod and email us with any feedback on [email protected]. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.