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In this episode, Grant McHerron talks with Geoff Camp, JLL's Defence Lead for Australia, about the changing shape of Defence and industry in estate operations.
We get an overview of JLL’s role as a real estate firm and beyond, particularly their involvement with the ADF, as well as the career that led Geoff to his current role and his history in Defence. The discussion gives us an insight into how base construction and management has developed in the last decade, with changes in perspectives in accommodation and amenities for staff, and the further considerations made for their work and personal lives. We also review newly applied technologies and their benefits to management, the impact that the removal and reclassification of workstations and locations had on JLL, and the opportunities granted by the increased focus on bases in the NT and far north QLD.
We wrap up by evaluating how recent increased tensions in the IndoPac region, changes in the US position, and instability in sectors of the world economy are impacting the Defence estate.
LINKS:
JLL's Defence Work
https://www.jll.com/en-au/industries/defence/?utm_source=&utm_medium=paidsocial&utm_campaign=ap-au-ind-gov-defence2025-0625&utm_content=podcast
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The ADM Podcast is produced by Southern Skies Media on behalf of Australian Defence Magazine, a Yaffa Media title (www.australiandefence.com.au).
The views of the people appearing on this podcast do not necessarily represent the views of Australian Defence Magazine, the Department of Defence or the guests' employer.
If you wish to use any of this podcast's audio, please contact Australian Defence Magazine via their website www.australiandefence.com.au or email them via [email protected] to get involved.
ADM Podcasts are a blend of public interest journalism and sponsored content with a focus on the Defence community. Conversations with leaders and thinkers from a range of backgrounds including academia, Defence, industry, and associations. ADM Podcasts aims to educate, explain and explore some of the bigger issues around Defence.
For sponsored content opportunities, please contact ADM Associate Publisher Kylie Leonard and/or National Sales Manager Michael Flanagan.
Hosted by Grant McHerron
Producer: Steve Visscher
Australian Defence Magazine - © 2025
By Australian Defence MagazineIn this episode, Grant McHerron talks with Geoff Camp, JLL's Defence Lead for Australia, about the changing shape of Defence and industry in estate operations.
We get an overview of JLL’s role as a real estate firm and beyond, particularly their involvement with the ADF, as well as the career that led Geoff to his current role and his history in Defence. The discussion gives us an insight into how base construction and management has developed in the last decade, with changes in perspectives in accommodation and amenities for staff, and the further considerations made for their work and personal lives. We also review newly applied technologies and their benefits to management, the impact that the removal and reclassification of workstations and locations had on JLL, and the opportunities granted by the increased focus on bases in the NT and far north QLD.
We wrap up by evaluating how recent increased tensions in the IndoPac region, changes in the US position, and instability in sectors of the world economy are impacting the Defence estate.
LINKS:
JLL's Defence Work
https://www.jll.com/en-au/industries/defence/?utm_source=&utm_medium=paidsocial&utm_campaign=ap-au-ind-gov-defence2025-0625&utm_content=podcast
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The ADM Podcast is produced by Southern Skies Media on behalf of Australian Defence Magazine, a Yaffa Media title (www.australiandefence.com.au).
The views of the people appearing on this podcast do not necessarily represent the views of Australian Defence Magazine, the Department of Defence or the guests' employer.
If you wish to use any of this podcast's audio, please contact Australian Defence Magazine via their website www.australiandefence.com.au or email them via [email protected] to get involved.
ADM Podcasts are a blend of public interest journalism and sponsored content with a focus on the Defence community. Conversations with leaders and thinkers from a range of backgrounds including academia, Defence, industry, and associations. ADM Podcasts aims to educate, explain and explore some of the bigger issues around Defence.
For sponsored content opportunities, please contact ADM Associate Publisher Kylie Leonard and/or National Sales Manager Michael Flanagan.
Hosted by Grant McHerron
Producer: Steve Visscher
Australian Defence Magazine - © 2025

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