In this episode of the Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to John Kay, one of the world’s leading economists, whose life’s work is focused on the relationship between economics and businesses.  Together with Mervyn King, former Governor of the Bank of England, he wrote Radical Uncertainty about the impoverished approach many economists and business strategists take regarding risk in the face of uncertainty.  In this conversation we get a wealth of insight about the judgement challenges facing leaders today and into the future. 

"Radical Uncertainty: Decision-making for an unknowable future", John Kay and Mervyn King (2020)

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After more than 5 years of hosting The Evolving Leader, Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are launching their new show The Mindset Economy in January 2026. The new show will explore how to live better, work smarter and be connected in a more uncertain world where machines can think. 

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During this bonus episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, guest Emma Sinclair talks to Jean Gomes about her current focus, understanding how teams work (and don't work) and her goal which is to help teams thrive. During this study, Emma has identified several core components that are required for effective teaming, and describes active listening as being foundational for human connection and productive interactions.

So why then is it so difficult for most people? 

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This week we talk to performance advisor, author and researcher Don Schmincke who believes that most management ideas fail because of human biology. Listen as Don shares the findings from his research and his belief that while many well respected books, theories and tools that leaders take into their organisations may well have a positive impact on the bottom line, the way to deliver the greatest impact is to alter human belief.  

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This week, Evolving Leader co-hosts Scott Allender and Jean Gomes talk to aerospace engineer and entrepreneur Ilham Said. Leaving university less than a year ago having completed a masters in aeronautical engineering, IIham Said is the co-founder of the start-up E2E, a global digital community created to allow other young engineers to help one another accelerate their knowledge. 

 
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How can we see the world more clearly? In what seems to be an era of rising polarization, what is real and true versus what is being driven by motivated reasoning, self-deception and illusion?   

 This week on the Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean and Scott talk to perceptual neuroscientist and author Dr Beau Lotto who opens our eyes and minds to the fact that we evolved to see what is useful, not accurate – that we never see reality as it is. Beau is the founder of Lab of Misfits, the world’s only perceptual neuroscience creative studio, he is a regular keynote speaker (including three mainstage TED talks) and author of Deviate, the Science of Seeing Differently. 

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After more than 5 years of hosting The Evolving Leader, Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are launching their new show The Mindset Economy in January 2026. The new show will explore how to live better, work smarter and be connected in a more uncertain world where machines can think. 

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This week on the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Scott Allender and Jean Gomes talk to author and neurologist Dr Robert A Burton. As leaders face greater uncertainty, the consequences of their judgement and decisions become ever more significant. A profound insight from Burton’s work, is that certainty is not a rational process, but in fact a feeling; a feeling of knowing, that ranges from an intuitive or gut feeling to an aha moment of absolute rightness.  

 On Being Certain: Believing You Are Right Even When You're Not

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This week, the Evolving Leader podcast talks to one of the world’s leading neuroscientists, Mark Solms. Most widely known for his discovery of the brain mechanisms of dreaming and his psychoanalytic methods in contemporary neuroscience, Solms’ research has taken him and his teams to a surprising source – not the evolved part of our brain responsible for memory, decision making and creativity, but the ancient parts. His hypothesis is that the origins of consciousness stem from bodily feeling and then emotion seated in the brain stem.  If he’s right, the implications on the prevailing notions of what it is to be a human are profound.

"The Hidden Spring: A Journey to the Source of Consciousness", Mark Solms

 
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This week, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to author and innovation consultant Elvin Turner. How prepared are our leaders to drive innovation efforts within their organisations? Elvin highlights how for many leaders their experience is grounded in maintaining the status quo, their focus is on running faster after the same thing, driving improved efficiency over the pursuit of relevance. Hear how it’s possible to switch on innovation and keep it alight.   

 “Be Less Zombie: How Great Companies Create Dynamic Innovation, Fearless Leadership and Passionate People”, Elvin Turner (Wiley, 2020)

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This week on the Evolving Leader, our co-hosts Jean and Scott talk to Holley Kholi-Murchison. Author, social practice artist, education producer and entrepreneur, Holley shares how you can tell others about yourself in a way that helps you to strengthen your sense of self and make powerful connections. Hear Holley describe the 6-step process “designed to bolster your confidence and authentic communication in life’s most vulnerable moments” originally introduced in her 2017 book ‘Tell me about yourself’.   

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During this episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Scott Allender and Jean Gomes get a masterclass in self-awareness from Ian Morgan Cron. Ian is an expert in the Enneagram, an ancient personality typing system that identifies nine types of people, and how they relate to one another and to the world. He is an experienced psychotherapist who brings wisdom and a much needed soulfulness to the conversation around how leaders build radical self-awareness that will enable them to break unhelpful reactive cycles. Ian Morgan Cron is an accomplished author, his published works including his book ‘The Road Back to You’ which introduces the Enneagram to its broadest audience yet.

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