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What happens when leaders become so focused on having power, making decisions, and getting things done that they stop listening to the people around them?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford explore how power can affect a leader’s ability to listen, understand others, and make thoughtful decisions. When leaders rely too heavily on their own perspectives, they risk missing valuable insights from their teams and making decisions that haven't been fully tested.
They also unpack how busyness can become an excuse for avoiding meaningful conversations and why creating intentional opportunities to listen is essential for effective leadership.
From shorter, more focused meetings to the practice of Gemba walks, Melanie and Mel share practical ways leaders can get closer to the work, understand their employees' challenges, recognize their strengths, and make better-informed decisions.
In this episode, you'll discover:
Leadership isn't just about having the authority to make decisions. It's about being willing to listen, learn, and recognize that the people doing the work often have insights leaders need to hear.
Keep experimenting. Keep listening. Keep leading.
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The higher you climb in leadership, the easier it can be to overlook your own biases. You might find yourself favoring people who think like you, agree with your ideas, or remind you of yourself. But how often do you stop and question whether your decisions are truly fair?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford explore how leaders can recognize implicit bias, become more aware of their decision-making habits, and stay open to perspectives that challenge their thinking.
They discuss why self-reflection matters, how pausing before making decisions can reveal hidden assumptions, and why making space for quieter voices is essential to better leadership. They also explore curiosity as a skill leaders can intentionally develop, helping them respond less defensively to new information and create room for innovation.
In this episode, you'll discover:
Great leadership isn't about having all the answers. It's about being willing to question what you believe, listen to different perspectives, and keep learning.
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Do you find yourself fixing your team’s work, even when it’s already good enough to move forward? Many leaders fall into the trap of believing they need to add value to every project. But constant editing and offering solutions can slow progress, undermine employee confidence, and take ownership away from the people doing the work.
In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford explore the shift from fixing to coaching. Learn how to recognize when your input is genuinely needed, when to trust your team, and how to use curiosity and thoughtful questions to help employees solve problems and take ownership of their work.
Discover how to offer guidance earlier, build trust, and give your team the space to succeed without feeling the need to improve everything yourself.
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Because great leadership isn’t about having every answer. It’s about helping others find theirs.
What if becoming a better leader starts with looking inward?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford sit down with JD Johnson to explore personal accountability, emotional intelligence, and authentic leadership. They discuss why understanding your values, motivations, and emotional triggers is essential to leading yourself and others effectively.
JD shares her work on Accountable Leadership Intelligence and the importance of making emotional intelligence practical. The conversation also explores why high-performing employees often struggle when promoted into leadership, how setting boundaries supports authentic leadership, and how to use AI without losing your unique voice and judgment.
In this episode, you'll discover:
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Your leadership experiment: Before your next difficult conversation, ask yourself: What is my part in this situation, and what can I take responsibility for?
Effective leadership starts within. Listen, reflect, and keep experimenting.
In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford explore how communication is a leadership skill we can continually develop to navigate different priorities, expectations, and responsibilities.
From coordinating family holiday plans to managing workplace schedules and holiday coverage, clear communication helps prevent misunderstandings, reduce tension, and ensure everyone feels heard and included.
Discover how collaborative planning, open conversations, and understanding what matters to others can transform the way we work together, celebrate together, and lead through the holiday season.
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Because great leadership starts with how we communicate.
Keep experimenting. Keep communicating. Keep leading.
When should a leader ask for input, and when is it better to simply make the decision?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explore one of the trickier parts of leadership: knowing when collaboration is helpful and when asking for input can actually create confusion, frustration, or a false sense of shared decision-making.
They unpack the difference between consulting, collaborating, and deciding, and why leaders need to understand their own decision-making authority before asking others for their opinions. If a leader already knows the decision is going forward, asking for input without being clear about what can actually change can erode trust.
Melanie and Mel discuss when leaders should involve people who are directly affected by a decision, why routine or preference-based decisions rarely require broad consultation, and how hiring decisions can benefit from input from the people who will actually work with a candidate.
They also explore how decision-making changes depending on the organizational context, from academic shared governance to startups and owner-led businesses.
The takeaway? Before you ask, know what you are asking for, who needs to be involved, and what you are willing or able to change.
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What if one of the biggest untapped resources in today’s workplace isn’t technology, but experience?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford sit down with leadership strategist and author Dan Pontefract to rethink age, experience, longevity, and the future of work.
This conversation invites leaders to ask an important question: What could your organization gain if you stopped treating age as a limitation and started treating experience as an asset?
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Leadership doesn’t stop when the meeting ends. Sometimes, it shows up around the dinner table.
In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford explore how leaders can intentionally shape informal gatherings, business dinners, and social events to create connection, inclusion, and meaningful conversation.
From choosing the right seating arrangement to managing alcohol, guiding table etiquette, and making thoughtful introductions, seemingly small decisions can have a significant impact on how comfortable and included people feel.
In this episode, you’ll learn how to:
Because great hosting is more than good manners—it’s leadership in action.
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What happens to your organizational culture when a valued employee leaves?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explore one of the often-overlooked moments in leadership: how we handle employee departures. Even when an exit is complicated by frustration, conflict, or disappointment, the way leaders respond sends a powerful message to the people who remain.
Mel and Melanie discuss why failing to acknowledge an employee’s contributions can become a cultural trap—and how thoughtful, authentic recognition can turn a departure into an opportunity to reinforce what your organization values.
You’ll hear practical insights on how to:
A good goodbye isn’t just about the person who is leaving. It’s also about the people who stay and the culture you are continuing to build.
Listen to this episode of The Experimental Leader and consider: What message does your organization send when someone walks out the door?
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What if feeling overwhelmed isn’t really about your workload but your thought load?
In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford sit down with leadership expert Liane Davey to explore the invisible mental and emotional demands that can leave leaders and teams feeling depleted, distracted, and overwhelmed.
Liane introduces the concept of thought load, which goes beyond the traditional idea of workload. Thought load is created by the combination of rising cognitive demands, emotional burdens, and depleted energy reserves and it can quietly affect our performance, relationships, decision-making, and ability to engage in productive conflict.
Liane shares her own experiment with a two-week digital and mental reset, including silent walks, coloring, and intentional periods of zero input. The goal isn’t to eliminate thoughts, but to create enough space for deeper processing, new connections, emotional regulation, and renewed energy.
The conversation also explores how digital overstimulation, remote work, smartphones, and even AI can impact the way we think, connect, learn, and process information. Liane challenges us to consider whether our constant access to information is helping us think better or encouraging us to surrender some of the deeper cognitive work that makes us curious, creative, and thoughtful.
You’ll also hear how high thought load can contribute to conflict debt, why workplaces may be missing opportunities for informal learning, and what leaders can do to make thought load more manageable and purposeful.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
If you’ve ever felt busy without knowing exactly why you’re exhausted, this conversation offers a new way to understand what may be happening beneath the surface.
Listen now and keep experimenting with your leadership.
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Are you a business owner, executive, leader, team leader, aspiring future leader, leadership junkie, a scientist, a design thinker, or simply the leader of your own life? If you are, then you are a…
Welcome to The Experimental Leader, a podcast where we tackle the ways leaders are experimenting in their own work. Hosted by Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford, we dive into the most interesting questions about leaders and get into real-life conversations about how people might be experimenting with their leadership. What they are trying? How they are leading and managing their flow of work and throughput? How are they managing bottlenecks, mission, vision, strategic, operational, and tactical intents? How do they organize experiments? How do they succeed? How do they fail? How do they collect data?
The loneliness of leadership can be overwhelming, especially when a leader gets promoted and doesn’t have a roadmap for how to lead. They might feel like they are supposed to have the answers, and yet they have to figure out what that really means. The hardest part can be not having anyone to talk to about their leadership journey.
Fear not. Let Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford be your guide to becoming the leader you were meant to be – an experimental leader!
A public speaker, consultant, workshop leader, author, and Master Certified Coach through the International Coach Federation, from whom she received the Prism Award, Melanie is an expert in problem-solving, constraints management, operations, strategic hiring, and brand development. She has consulted and coached organizations ranging from a Fortune 50 company to IT start-ups receiving their first round of funding. Her individual clients include those in FAANG and other top global IT companies. Melanie is a Certified Professional Coactive Coach and, Organization and Relationship Systems Certified Coach, and a Theory of Constraints Certified Jonah. As an author, educator, and creator of The Experimental Leader program, Melanie shows people new ways of thinking about their leadership, informed by her understanding of the fast-paced ride of technology innovation.
A professor in the Department of Psychology, Neuroscience and Behaviour, and Canada Research Chair in Social Perception. Dr. Mel Rutherford graduated from Yale University and earned a Ph.D. in Psychology with an emphasis in Human Development from the University of California at Santa Barbara. A Fulbright Fellowship allowed Dr. Rutherford to study and collaborate with the well-known Simon Baron-Cohen in Cambridge, England. Dr. Rutherford also worked with Bruce Pennington and Sally Rogers at the University of Denver as a postdoctoral fellow. He now heads a dynamic research laboratory at McMaster University. Dr. Rutherford is well-known for research in the field of psychology and has been interviewed and quoted in The Globe and Mail, The London Times, The Chicago Times, CBC Radio, Quirks and Quarks, and The Discovery Channel, as well as many AP newspapers around the world.
Get rid of the fear and doubt, and shift your leadership into something that works better. Every week, learn from top leaders about how they’re experimenting, how they’re leading, and how they’re doing the things that they do. Join us here on The Experimental Leader and step into leadership with confidence and the knowledge to start leading the experiment today!