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In this episode of The Expert Method, Ian Gatzke sits down with Jaclyn Orent, co-founder and systems architect of the Cultural Catalyst Network, for a conversation about leadership, identity, consciousness, and what it means to build for the future.
Jaclyn argues that the leaders of the next era will not simply be people who build companies. They will be cultural catalysts — people who redefine normal by creating new ways of leading, serving, collaborating, and building systems that contribute to life instead of extracting from it.
The conversation explores why business needs to shift from self-serving goals to whole-serving impact, how identity shapes behavior, why self-leadership is foundational during periods of disruption, and why sustained change is impossible to do alone. Jaclyn also breaks down ideas from intentional change theory, the science of scaling, consciousness research, emotional regulation, and collective shared vision.
This is a conversation about the kind of leadership the future may require — not just more strategy, more growth, or more information, but a deeper shift in how we lead ourselves, build with others, and serve the whole.
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Jaclyn’s Links:
- Website: https://www.culturalcatalysts.net/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaclynorent
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kova.orent/
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Highlights:
00:00 — Ray Dalio & Meditation
01:59 — Meet Jaclyn Orent
02:04 — Redefining Normal
05:13 — New Business Models
07:07 — Service Over Self
08:31 — Conscious Leadership
09:19 — Scaling Through Impact
12:24 — Mission Beats Revenue
13:11 — Hormozi, Robbins & Change
18:37 — The Future System
19:17 — Self-Leadership
20:36 — Captain Your Mind
22:59 — Change Needs People
24:39 — Family Systems & Safety
26:21 — Intentional Change Theory
28:28 — Becoming a Catalyst
32:01 — Levels of Consciousness
35:19 — PEA vs NEA
37:26 — Respond, Don’t React
38:25 — Reality as Truth
41:41 — Mindfulness in Practice
44:02 — Timeline as a Tool
51:25 — Raising Consciousness
56:33 — Where Friction Shows Up
01:00:38 — The Billboard Message
01:02:42 — Resonance Moves Change
01:03:27 — Closing