The world is transfixed by the tragic images emerging from Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine: broken people and families, destroyed schools, homes and buildings. Unfortunately, many modern conflicts never really end, so the casualties of such wars never have a chance to heal. Whether or not that will be the case in Ukraine remains to be seen, but that certainly describes the wars in Syria, the West Bank, Gaza, Bosnia, parts of Africa, and elsewhere. In a globalizing world where war was supposed to be a thing of the past, that shouldn't be happening, which ironically may be part of the explanation for why it is.** We too quickly move on to the next issue, assuming that what's done is done.**

War correspondents and war photographers know better. Our guest, Janine di Giovanni has spent much of her celebrated career so far reporting from the Balkans, Africa and the Middle East. She has witnessed the worst of what mankind can do to itself, but also the best that people under extraordinary circumstances can do for others. And that balance between evil and good comes through in her reporting.

Listen as she discusses her experiences and, in particular, the work she has done on the lives of Palestinians in Gaza.

What do YOU think?

This conversation was recorded before the start of Russia’s war with Ukraine.