In this episode, Pastors Tommy and Jesse are joined by special guests, Jeff & Terra Mattson, founders of Living Wholehearted, authors of "Shrinking the Integrity Gap," and hosts of the Living Wholehearted Podcast. Together, they discuss how mental health impacts pastors and church leaders, why mental health issues continue to be problematic in the church, red flags to look for, and how better knowing ourselves can help us find healing and balance.