Post-Traumatic Growth: Lisa Collins on Surviving Workplace Bullying
After 36 years working across the NHS, and building a career as an anti-bullying advocate, Liza Collins found herself the target of a coordinated bullying campaign while opening abrand-new hospital. In this episode, she joins host Anita Whyte Moran and Dr. Jen Fraser to unpack how it happened: the gaslighting, the physical collapse it triggered, and thehealing journey that led her to write The Physiology of Bullying.
Together they explore why workplace bullying is a public health crisis, how HR often protects institutions rather than people, why abusers get promoted while truth-tellers leave, and how naming what's happening — in your body andyour brain — is the first step toward recovery. A raw, revealing conversation about trauma, shame, and what post-traumatic growth actually looks like.
This is a raw, wide-ranging conversation covering:
🧠 Why workplace bullying is a public health crisis — and how it physically changes the brain and body
🚩 How gaslighting actually works, and why it's so hard to spot from the inside
🏥 What really happens when you report bullying to HR
📉 Why abusers so often get protected and promoted, while the people who speak up leave
💬 The power of finally having language for shame, coercive control, and moral injury
🌱 Moving from being "trauma-informed" to "trauma-preventative"
❤️ Oxytocin, co-regulation, and what psychological (and physiological) safety really requires
Whether you've experienced workplace bullying yourself, work in HR or leadership, or simply want to understand why this issue deserves so much more attention, this episode will change how you think about it.
📖 Lisa Collins' book: The Physiology of Bullying
📖 Dr. Jen Fraser's book: The Gaslit Brain / The Bullied Brain
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Chapters:
0:00 Introducing Lisa Collins
02:36 The toxic hospital opening & escalation
05:02 The union call and the "brown envelope"
07:17 Recognising it as trauma
09:06 Post-traumatic growth & how the Bullied Brain series began
11:54 Physiological safety & mobbing groups
14:29 Bystanders, moral injury & the ripple effect on family
18:07 Unpacking gaslighting: real examples
22:44 The hospital today — and why abusers get promoted
26:54 The research: job strain, cardiovascular harm & public health
33:51 Wearables, data & proving the abuse
34:47 Money, power & the Catholic Church PR playbook
38:30 Validation, Samaritans & bullying as a lifelong pattern
40:31 HR as "black ops"
46:24 Rethinking psychological safety (and flipping Maslow)
49:00 Measuring safety: brain scans & leadership accountability
52:02 Alternative models of leadership in healthcare
55:36 Building a new language for what's happening
58:29 Coercive control, shame & unresolved trauma in leaders
62:03 Trauma-informed vs. trauma-preventative
62:57 The myth of "protected classes"
66:51 "Don't take your eyes off the abuser"
71:09 Safety, oxytocin & co-regulation
76:13 Closing thoughts & where to find Lisa's book
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