Every morning at school, before the first lesson begins, something important is already happening. In this episode, Melissa and Susan sit down with Sarah Harvick, a vice principal in Putnam County, Tennessee, to talk about what schools see that most people don't: the pulse of a building, the kids who are quietly struggling, and the adults who notice first. From TCAP season to summer slide, from bullying investigations to the art of the car chat, this conversation goes deep into the invisible work that holds schools together. Sarah brings warmth, candor, and a perspective earned from years of standing at the door and greeting every child who walks through it.

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