The First Responder Wellness Podcast

Retired police officer Jason Lehman shares how he became the overaggressive cop he had once encountered as a kid, and why changing his behavior was only part of the work.

In this conversation with Chris Logan, Jason reflects on the power of the badge, moral injury, accountability, and the things he struggled to forgive himself for. He speaks openly about a period of suicidal thoughts, the unexpected call from his father during a crisis, and the people who made it clear: “I’m for you.”

Chris also shares a hard lesson from his own recovery: stopping drugs and alcohol didn’t automatically change how he treated people. Together, they discuss what it takes to do the deeper work and why a first responder is more than the uniform they wear.

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First responders are normal people asked to do abnormal things, over and over again. When repeated exposure to trauma collides with sleep deprivation, family pressures, perfectionism, shame, and a culture of silence, simply “grinding it out” can stop working.

In this episode of the First Responder Wellness Podcast, Chris Logan sits down with Kim Statham, M.A., LMFT, for a candid conversation about suicide prevention in the first responder community. They examine how accumulated stress can contribute to depression, isolation, self-medication, helplessness, and suicidal thinking and why recognizing the warning signs early matters.

Chris and Kim also discuss what suicidal ideation can sound like, why it is important to ask directly about suicide, what families and peer supporters should watch for, and how confidentiality, connection, counseling, and early intervention can help create a path forward.

Struggling does not make someone weak, and the job is not their entire identity. No one has to navigate these thoughts alone, and there is always another option.

Content note: This episode includes direct conversations about suicide, suicidal ideation, trauma, depression, and substance use.

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In this episode of the First Responder Wellness Podcast, host Chris Logan sits down with Chaplain Nick to explore the unseen world of first responder chaplaincy. From his unique beginnings as a reserve firefighter to serving law enforcement agencies , Nick shares how the job reshapes the human soul.

They dive deep into the heavy reality of compassion fatigue, the trauma of witnessing sudden loss, and why "the hardening of the heart" becomes an accidental protective measure for public safety workers. Nick also speaks openly about his book, Used to Go to Church, shedding light on the crucial difference between rigid institutional religion and authentic spiritual healing in recovery.Whether you are a firefighter, police officer, EMS worker, or someone looking to understand the mental health battles on the front lines, this conversation offers a profound blueprint for moving from isolation back into community.

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Scott Irwin was living out of his car when he joined the Marine Corps. It gave him discipline, direction, and the foundations of leadership, but it was also where his drinking began.

While building a successful career in law enforcement, primarily working gangs and narcotics, Scott made the decision to get sober and begin rebuilding the trust and relationships his drinking had damaged.

In this episode of the First Responder Wellness Podcast, Scott opens up about sobriety, restoring his family, officer-involved shootings, the tragedies he witnessed throughout his career, and seeing firsthand what the job can do to first responders and their families.

Today, Scott provides case management and facilitates groups at First Responder Wellness. Listen to Scott’s story of discipline, destruction, recovery, and a life rebuilt.

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In this episode of The First Responder Wellness Podcast, Chris Logan sits down with Chris Catren, former Chief of Police and Director of Strategic Relationships at First Responder Wellness.

After nearly 30 years in law enforcement, Chris Catren had seen the job from every angle: officer, detective, supervisor, chief, and department leader. But when he first toured First Responder Wellness, he admits he came in skeptical.

He had a hard time believing that first responders were really opening up, sharing honestly, and getting the help they needed. Then he saw it for himself.

In this conversation, Chris shares his path into law enforcement, the lessons he learned as a leader, how his view of wellness and peer support changed, and why departments can no longer treat mental health as an “extra”.

This episode is a powerful reminder that wellness is not just a policy, a poster, or a box to check. It is people helping people survive a very difficult career.

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In this episode of The First Responder Wellness Podcast, Chris Logan sits down with Fred, a retired Los Angeles firefighter and Deputy Chief, to talk about 35 years in the fire service, the calls that stayed with him, and the cost of always trying to “stay strong.”

Fred shares what it was like starting his fire career at Fire Station 9 on Skid Row, working some of the busiest assignments in Los Angeles, and slowly realizing that the calls he thought he had buried were beginning to add up.

He opens up about PTSD symptoms, recovery, the stigma around asking for help, and why going to treatment became one of the best decisions he ever made.

Today, Fred uses his own experience to help other first responders understand that needing help is not weakness. Sometimes the most courageous thing you can do is raise your hand and say, “I need help.”

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In this episode, Chris Logan sits down with Joel Edwards, CEO of First Responder Wellness, to talk about the story, mission, and heart behind FRW.

Joel shares how his own recovery journey shaped the way he views treatment, why traditional treatment models often fall short, and how First Responder Wellness was built to provide a different kind of care for those who serve our communities.

From building trust with departments to creating a place where first responders can be honest, supported, and understood, this conversation gives a deeper look at why FRW exists and what it means to walk with first responders through some of the hardest moments of their lives.

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In this episode, we sit down with Devin O’Day to talk about what’s really happening behind the scenes with first responders. PTSD, alcohol, burnout, and the moments that push people to the edge.

This conversation goes deeper than awareness. We break down:

- Why there’s never a “good time” to get help
- What people are actually thinking in their darkest moments
- The real barriers that keep people from treatment
- How departments can either support recovery… or make it worse
- Why getting help early changes everything

We also talk about what treatment actually looks like, why it only works if you’re willing to do the work, and how the culture around mental health in first responder agencies is starting to shift.

If you or someone you know is struggling, don’t wait.

Start the conversation. Ask questions. Do something.

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In this episode, we sit down with clinical experts to talk about why alcohol becomes such a common coping tool, especially for first responders. From nervous system overload to environmental triggers and learned patterns, this conversation breaks down what’s really happening beneath the surface.

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Today on the First Responder Wellness Podcast, we sit down with John, who shares his story of living with depression after decades in law enforcement.

For years, John built a career around strength, composure, and solving the worst days of other people’s lives. But privately, he was struggling. In this honest conversation, he talks about what depression really felt like, the pressure to always be strong, and the moment he realized he didn’t want to die, he just didn’t know how to live anymore.

This episode is about more than crisis. It’s about what happens when strength becomes a mask, and what recovery actually looks like for a first responder who never thought he’d need help.

If you’re a first responder, a family member, or anyone silently carrying more than you show, this conversation is for you.

For confidential support, or simply to learn more with no commitment, contact us:
https://frhealth.com/
888-443-4898