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How do you know if an AI system is trustworthy, compliant, ethical, and fit for purpose? 
 
In this episode of the FIT4Privacy Podcast, Punit Bhatia is joined by Stella Liu, an AI evaluation expert and founder of AI Evals & Analytics, to unpack one of the most practical and overlooked challenges in AI today: how to evaluate AI systems before and after deployment. 

 
KEY MOMENTS 

02:09 —AI Definition 

03:02 —AI Evaluations 

10:31 — Why AI Testing Is Hard 

14:06 — Evals Plus Analytics 
18:15 —Synthetic Data 

23:47 —Protecting Privacy Ethical 
29:05 — AI Evals as a Company 

29:52 —How to reach Stella Liu 

Stella explains why AI behaves differently from traditional software, why testing code alone is no longer enough, and how AI evaluations (AI evals) help organizations assess real-world behavior, risk, and performance. From evaluation driven development to continuous monitoring in production, the conversation explores how teams can move beyond guesswork and hype toward repeatable, measurable AI governance. 

 
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ABOUT THE GUEST 

Stella Liu is the Co-founder of AI Evals & Analytics (Maven), where she created the AI Evals & Analytics Playbook and teaches top-rated courses on LLM evaluation, monitoring, and product alignment. She’s also the Head of AI Applied Science at ASU, leading evals and analytics across university-wide AI products and building higher-ed’s first formal AI evaluation framework, and she previously led data science at Shopify and Carvana with 12+ years shipping large-scale ML systems. 

ABOUT THE HOST    

Punit Bhatia is one of the leading privacy experts who works independently and has worked with professionals in over 30 countries. Punit works with business and privacy leaders to create an organization culture with high privacy awareness and compliance as a business priority. Selectively, Punit is open to mentor and coach privacy professionals.  

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 
Stella Lui 

• Website: https://maven.com/  
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wenxingl/ 

Grow Skills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

How do you know if your AI is truly trustworthy, compliant, and ready for real-world use?

In this episode trailer, we explore the evolving field of AI evaluation from understanding why AI systems can behave unpredictably to applying structured methods that assess quality, risk, and compliance. Learn how organizations move beyond simple testing to adopt a full lifecycle approach, including evaluation-driven development, pre-release checks, and continuous monitoring after deployment.

 If you're working with frameworks like the EU AI Act, ISO 42001, or NIST, this conversation gives you practical insight into turning requirements into measurable, repeatable evaluation methods so your AI is not just functional, but reliable and responsible.

👉 Are you evaluating your AI systems or just deploying them? Watch the full episode to learn how to build trustworthy AI. 

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 
Stella Lui 

• Website: https://maven.com/  
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wenxingl/ 

Grow Skills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

AI is changing how professionals communicate, market, and build relationships on LinkedIn but using more automation doesn’t always lead to better outcomes. 

In this episode of the FIT4Privacy Podcast, we sit down with Judi Hays, LinkedIn strategist and author of Elevate, Expand, Engage, to explore how AI is reshaping visibility, credibility, and professional branding on LinkedIn. Judy explains why AI should be treated as an assistant, not a replacement, and why unchecked automation can quietly damage trust and reputation. 

 
KEY MOMENTS 

02:00 — The world of AI Privacy  

02:30 — AI Impact on Marketing 

05:45 — Concerns on Privacy 

09:02 — LinkedIn Algorithm Shift 

15:12 — Elevate Expand Engage Framework 

22:23 — AI Bots and Automation Risk 

26:40 — About the book “Elevate Expand Engage” 

28:30 — Final Message 

From AI‑generated comments and outreach tools to voice notes mistaken for synthetic audio, this conversation highlights how easily authenticity can be lost. We discuss why LinkedIn is not a selling platform, how the algorithm has shifted to prioritize integrity over hacks, and why saves and meaningful comments now matter more than likes or hashtags. 

The episode also dives into privacy and security concerns, including risky links, fake profiles, and automation tools that can lead to account suspension. Whether you’re a consultant, executive, job seeker, or founder, this conversation offers practical, experience-based guidance on how to use AI responsibly while building a trusted professional presence. 

If you’re navigating LinkedIn in the age of AI, this episode will help you understand what has changed, what no longer works, and why authenticity still wins. 

 
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ABOUT THE GUEST 

Judi Radice Hays is a New York-based LinkedIn strategist, personal brand expert, and author of Elevate, Expand, Engage: A Refreshingly Different Approach to Winning on LinkedIn. She advises executives on building visibility, strengthening trust, and positioning their expertise for career opportunities and business development on LinkedIn. Judi is known for her practical, credibility-first approach to authority positioning that helps the invisible become invaluable. She is a frequent contributor to Forbes and the Financial Executive Journal.  
 

ABOUT THE HOST    

Punit Bhatia is one of the leading privacy experts who works independently and has worked with professionals in over 30 countries. Punit works with business and privacy leaders to create an organization culture with high privacy awareness and compliance as a business priority. Selectively, Punit is open to mentor and coach privacy professionals.  

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 
Judi Hays 
• Website: https://judihays.com/  

• LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/judihays 

• Substack: https://substack.com/@askjudihays  

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@askjudihays  

• Digital Resources: https://judihays.gumroad.com/  

•Book: https://www.amazon.com/Elevate-Expand-Engage-Refreshingly-Relationships/dp/1955242070  

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

Is AI making LinkedIn outreach more effective or less trustworthy?

In this trailer, we explore how AI is reshaping marketing, outreach, and personal branding on LinkedIn and why authenticity matters more than ever.

You’ll learn: 

• Why SEO is evolving into AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) focused on questions, answers, and discoverability in AI systems  

• How AI can support content creation but may reduce authenticity and credibility if overused 

• Why audiences are increasingly skeptical of automated messages and content 

The takeaway is simple: 👉 Use AI as an assistant not a replacement.

👉 Watch the full episode to understand how to balance AI efficiency with authenticity and build real relationships on LinkedIn. 

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 
Judi Hays 
• Website: https://judihays.com/  

• LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/judihays 

• Substack: https://substack.com/@askjudihays  

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@askjudihays  

• Digital Resources: https://judihays.gumroad.com/  

•Book: https://www.amazon.com/Elevate-Expand-Engage-Refreshingly-Relationships/dp/1955242070  

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

 In this episode of the FIT4Privacy Podcast, we speak with Tom Kemp, Executive Director of the California Privacy Protection Agency (CalPrivacy), about why California continues to set the direction for privacy regulation in the United States. 

KEY MOMENTS 

00:00 – California Privacy Protection Agency 

03:25 – State of US Privacy 

05:02 – Why California Leads  

08:30 – Mandate in CalPrivacy and how it works 

15:12 – How does AI impacts privacy laws? Will we see new legislation? 

20:40 – U.S. vs EU vs UK AI Regulation Models 

23:30 – Measuring the Impact (Drop System) 

28:45 – Opt Out vs Opt In 

35:27 – Business Feedback and Innovation 

39:20 – Closing and final message to audience 
 

Tom explains how California became the first jurisdiction to establish a comprehensive privacy framework through a public vote, how CalPrivacy operates as an independent regulator, and how it balances innovation, AI development, and consumer protection in one of the world’s largest economies. 

They explore California’s approach to AI and automated decision‑making, the upcoming rights taking effect in 2027, the Delete Act and one‑click data broker deletion, opt‑out versus opt‑in models, and how CalPrivacy measures real‑world impact beyond legal compliance. 

A must‑listen for privacy professionals, policymakers, business leaders, and anyone interested in the future of privacy and AI governance. 

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ABOUT THE GUEST 

Tom Kemp is the Executive Director of the CalPrivacy. Before his role at the CalPrivacy, Tom was a Silicon Valley-based tech entrepreneur, co-founder, and CEO. Tom was a full-time volunteer on the 2020 campaign to pass the California Privacy Rights Act and has since advised on significant tech policy legislation across the country, including the Delete Act (SB 362), the AI Transparency Act (SB 942), and bills in Texas, Nebraska, Vermont, and Washington. He has been recognized for his policy contributions by both the California and Texas State Senates. Tom is the author of Containing Big Tech: How to Protect Civil Rights, Economy, and Democracy. Tom holds a bachelor’s degree in computer science and history from the University of Michigan. 

ABOUT THE HOST    

Punit Bhatia is one of the leading privacy experts who works independently and has worked with professionals in over 30 countries. Punit works with business and privacy leaders to create an organization culture with high privacy awareness and compliance as a business priority. Selectively, Punit is open to mentor and coach privacy professionals.  

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 

Tom Kemp https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkemp/ , https://privacy.ca.gov/  

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

Why does Europe follow an opt‑in model, while the US relies on opt‑out? 

In this trailer, we explore two fundamentally different approaches to privacy: 

• EU (Opt‑In) – No data is collected until the user gives explicit consent  

• US (Opt‑Out) – Data can be collected by default, but users can decline or restrict usage later 

They also discuss: 

• Why the US adopted an opt‑out approach, partly due to legal and constitutional considerations 

• How California is improving the model through tools like one‑click opt‑out and deletion systems 

• Why the goal is shifting toward making privacy easier and scalable for consumers 

As AI and data-driven technologies grow, these models shape how users control their data and how businesses operate globally. 

👉 Watch the full episode to understand how privacy frameworks are evolving across regions. 

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ABOUT THE GUEST 

Tom Kemp is the Executive Director of the CalPrivacy. Before his role at the CalPrivacy, Tom was a Silicon Valley-based tech entrepreneur, co-founder, and CEO. Tom was a full-time volunteer on the 2020 campaign to pass the California Privacy Rights Act and has since advised on significant tech policy legislation across the country, including the Delete Act (SB 362), the AI Transparency Act (SB 942), and bills in Texas, Nebraska, Vermont, and Washington. He has been recognized for his policy contributions by both the California and Texas State Senates. Tom is the author of Containing Big Tech: How to Protect Civil Rights, Economy, and Democracy. Tom holds a bachelor’s degree in computer science and history from the University of Michigan. 

ABOUT THE HOST    

Punit Bhatia is one of the leading privacy experts who works independently and has worked with professionals in over 30 countries. Punit works with business and privacy leaders to create an organization culture with high privacy awareness and compliance as a business priority. Selectively, Punit is open to mentor and coach privacy professionals.  

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 

Tom Kemp https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkemp/ , https://privacy.ca.gov/  

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

In this episode of the FIT4Privacy Podcast, privacy expert Punit Patia welcomes Ridwan Oloyede to the Fit4Privacy podcast to discuss how privacy is perceived and evolving across Africa. 

KEY MOMENTS 
01:38 – State of Africa Privacy Overview 

03:25 – Laws Across Countries 

05:18 – State of Compliance  

09:04 – AI Reshaping Regulation 
14:12 – Africa Privacy state in next 5-7 years 

16:23 – Contact Information 
 
Ridwan explains that many African constitution's guarantee privacy rights and that, since 2001, data protection laws have expanded to dozens of countries, typically through omnibus statutes plus sector-specific and regional rules. They discuss compliance maturity, noting increasing local compliance requirements (such as registration and transfer authorizations), growing enforcement activity, and emerging litigation models that vary by country.  

The conversation also covers rapid growth in AI governance, including national AI strategies and policies, proposed AI-specific and emerging-technology legislation, amendments to data protection laws to address AI, and actions by regulators such as moratoriums and guidance on facial recognition and biometrics. 
 
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ABOUT THE GUEST  

Ridwan Oloyede is a Nigerian legal practitioner, researcher, and expert in data protection, cybersecurity, and technology policy. As co-founder of Tech Hive Advisory and a Fellow of Information Privacy (FIP), he focuses on AI governance, digital ethics, and cross-border data transfers in Africa. 

ABOUT THE HOST    

Punit Bhatia is one of the leading privacy experts who works independently and has worked with professionals in over 30 countries. Punit works with business and privacy leaders to create an organization culture with high privacy awareness and compliance as a business priority. Selectively, Punit is open to mentor and coach privacy professionals.  

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 

Ridwan Oloyede https://www.linkedin.com/in/oloyederidwan/  

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

How is AI governance evolving across Africa?

In this trailer, Punit and Ridwan explore the growing momentum around AI regulation and policy across the continent. 

You’ll learn: 

• Why countries are developing national AI strategies and policies  

• How some nations are introducing AI-specific laws and regulatory frameworks 

• Why others are taking a broader approach with emerging technology legislation 

Beyond formal laws, regulators including data protection authorities and sector-specific bodies are actively shaping AI governance through guidelines and enforcement. 

👉 Watch the full episode to understand how Africa is building its AI governance landscape.

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 

Ridwan Oloyede https://www.linkedin.com/in/oloyederidwan/  

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

In this episode of the FIT4Privacy Podcast, privacy expert Punit Bhatia speaks with Barry Moult, a longtime data protection professional and mentor to emerging talent.  

KEY MOMENTS 

00:00 – AI & Misinformation: Risks of AI content. 

01:42 – Retirement & Mentoring: Barry’s ongoing guidance. 

06:30 – Human Oversight: Why privacy still needs humans. 

10:04 – Mentoring Careers: Advice for newcomers. 

13:21 – Making Privacy Fun: Creative training & gamification. 

18:33 – Career Tips: Networking and practical skills. 

23:26 – Collaboration: Working with cyber & legal experts. 

28:57 – Future of Privacy: AI, careers, and opportunities. 

Their conversation explores how AI is changing the privacy landscape, why human judgment still matters, and what new professionals should know when building a career in data protection. 

Barry shares practical insights from his decades of experience, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, apprenticeships, and hands-on learning for new privacy professionals.  

This episode is a guide for anyone entering privacy, offering actionable advice, career strategies, and a glimpse into how the profession is evolving in the age of AI. 

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ABOUT THE GUEST  

Barry Moult is an information governance and data protection consultant who helps people as DPO, trainer, and consultant. Punit was recently won the ICO Excellence in Data Protection Award 2020. Barry founded and chaired the Eastern Region IG Forum since 2003 and is chair of GP-PCN (DPO) National Network 2020   

ABOUT THE HOST    

Punit Bhatia is one of the leading privacy experts who works independently and has worked with professionals in over 30 countries. Punit works with business and privacy leaders to create an organization culture with high privacy awareness and compliance as a business priority. Selectively, Punit is open to mentor and coach privacy professionals.  

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 

Barry Moult https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-moult-5b028319/?originalSubdomain=uk 

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO 

Can privacy actually be fun?

In this trailer, Barry and Punit explore a fresh perspective on data protection moving beyond complex regulations and “death by PowerPoint” to make privacy engaging and accessible. 

You’ll learn: 

• Why traditional privacy training often fails to engage people 

• How to use creative approaches like games, quizzes, and real-life scenarios 

• How linking privacy concepts to songs, movies, and everyday decisions can improve understanding 

We also discuss how gamification and practical examples can help professionals and newcomers build interest and confidence in privacy as a career. 

👉 Watch the full episode to discover how to make privacy meaningful, engaging, and part of everyday thinking. 

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Resources & Links 

Guest Links 

Barry Moult https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-moult-5b028319/?originalSubdomain=uk 

GrowSkills (Privacy Courses & Insights) 

• Courses: https://growskills.store/courses/ 

• Insights: https://growskills.store/insights/ 

• Website: https://growskills.store/ 

FIT4Privacy 

• Website: https://www.fit4privacy.com 

• Podcast: https://www.fit4privacy.com/podcast 

• Blog: https://www.fit4privacy.com/blog 

• YouTube: http://youtube.com/fit4privacy 

Punit Bhatia 

• Website: https://www.punitbhatia.com 

Books  

• Be Ready for GDPR 

• AI & Privacy – How to Find Balance 

• Intro to GDPR 

• Be an Effective DPO