The Forest & the Trees

With great power comes great podcastibility! We welcome our first atheist guest - Michael Wiseman Author of The Bible Says What!? He also hosts a podcast of the same name. We discuss our own history with the church, christianity, and why we got into podcasting. We also debate who’s more loving - Jesus or Spiderman?

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Special Guest Kevin Garcia joins us to help wrap up Romans. We talk about female apostles, not being divisive, and how Paul’s actually pretty ok. 

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Resources
Can You Ever Forgive Me?

Bart Ehrman on the discrepancy between Paul’s letters as it relates to women in ministry 

After Jesus before Christianity by Erin Vearncombe, Brandon Scott, Hal Taussig

Forgotten Creed by Stephen J Patterson

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The penultimate chapter of Romans! Jef pushes Jeremy one more time on animal ethics, we also discuss issues of parenting and indoctrination.

Topics
Why isn’t Jeremy vegan?
Are non-believers unified?
Why is God so needy in asking for praise?
Should you just believe even if you feel nothing?

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Is it okay to eat meat? A Christian Carnivore, a Vegan Atheist, and a Vegan Christian discuss dietary ethics.  Jeremy and Jef are joined by Pastor, Church Planter, Spiritual Pioneer, and Vegan Amanda Miller Garber to talk about it.

Topics

Are vegans too judgy?
Why don’t Christians care about animal rights?
Why doesn’t God care about animal rights?
Why care so much about a secondary issue?
How does God get everyone to bow down to him without being coercive?

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Jeremy and Jef further discuss the distinction between the Person and the Principles of Jesus. We also explore idolatry, God making people jealous, whether or not Jeremy is ignoring the mean parts of God, and whether Jef can withdraw God's gifts for his life.

Topics
The Person or the Principles of Jesus?
What’s so bad about Idolatry?
Is God a Jealous Lover?
Is Jeremy just ignoring the hard parts of scripture?
Is Jef still being called by God?

Book Reference
The Supper of the Lamb By Robert Capon

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It’s Thursday night at summer camp. Time to make a decision for Jesus. Jeremy and Jef discuss the sinner’s prayer, religious diversity, the person of Jesus vs the principles, whether religion has broken Jef’s brain, and the Christian mission to take over the world. 

Topics
Is God Moving in the Ministry?
The Sinner’s Prayer
Do Christians want to Convert the world?
Should Christians allow for Religious Diversity?
Does Jef even understand what the Gospel is?

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We have been predestined to talk about Calvinism in Romans 9 and we’ve brought a very special friend! Pastor, Theologian, and Author, Greg Boyd has been elected to lend some scholarly wisdom.

Topics
Is Calvinism true? Do we have free will?
Would you sacrifice yourself to save others?
Are the Israelites God’s chosen people or is Everyone?
Why does God choose some people over others?
Does God Love everyone or Hate certain people?
Can we choose to believe? 
Is God okay with us asking questions?
What of those who are destined for destruction? 

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https://reknew.org/

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We bring on our very first guest Ariel from Trans Regret Snoopy Presents the Bible. The three of us consult various translations, discuss the workings of the Holy Spirit, and possibly even find a solution for how Calvinism and Universalism can both be true!

Topics
Bible Translations
What’s so great about Romans 8?
What is the sinful nature?
What are the groans?
Does God work everything together for good?
Will everyone be saved?

Books
The Pastor by Eugene Peterson
The Forgotten Creed by Steven J. Patterson
That All Shall be Saved by David Bentley Hart
The Better Angels of our Nature by Steven Pinker

Can a calvinist believe they’re not elect?

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We look at divorce and remarriage, revisiting why we crave things that aren't good for us, we're going to try to make sense about when Christians sin, and we'll find out if Jef got rid of his sinful nature when he stopped being a Christian.

Topics
Divorce and Remarriage
Personal Cravings
Can we blame the demons for our bad behavior?
How does a non-believer understand sin? 

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We’re back after an unexpected break. Jef complains about how repetitive Paul is getting, we disagree about how similar or different we are, and we dive deeper into the problem of slavery in the Bible. 

Topics
Are Jeremy and Jef so different?
Is Paul Speaking literally or metaphorically?
Did Jef miss out on a deeper version of Christianity?
Why is the Bible still okay with Slavery?

Media referenced
The Forgotten Creed by Steven J. Patterson
Hail Satan? Documentary

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