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“Stiffness is the agent of death.” That line hit us like a wake-up call, and it sets the tone for a conversation that’s equal parts practical and deeply human. We’re joined again by Jonathan Pasqual, an endurance athlete and coach living with stage 4 paraganglioma, a rare neuroendocrine cancer. He looks like the picture of health on the outside, but he’s honest about what’s really happening inside: chronic pain from cancer in the bones, breathing limits as tumors press on airways, and the constant need to adjust so he can keep living fully.
We talk about what “movement is medicine” actually means when movement hurts. Jonathan breaks down how he uses a healthy expectation, self-regulation, and the talk test to stay safe without quitting. We also get into coaching philosophy: listening first, building a plan around real life, and respecting recovery so athletes don’t train their way into injury. If you’ve ever felt stuck because you can’t do what you used to do, his reframe is powerful: your body only asks what you can bring today, while your ego demands yesterday’s numbers.
You’ll also hear the details for JP’s Backyard Ultra and Hike on September 26, 2026 at Skyline Wilderness Park in Napa. It’s a 3.3-mile loop event open to runners, hikers, and walkers, built around community, medals for all, fundraising for the Pheo Para Alliance, and a simple invitation to “be a force for good.” Subscribe for more fourth-quarter motivation, share this with a friend who needs a reset, and leave us a review so more people can find the show.
Get all the details HERE: JP's Backyard Ultra/Hike, The Final Edition
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Do a deep dive on Jonathan’s story here: Jonathan Pasquale Linktr.ee