Darin and Aimee talk about how the power of fear can cause the masses to do things they never imagined they’d do. When faced with terror, people willingly give up their rights as human beings. They’ll believe anything they’re told to believe and follow whoever they’re told to follow. The “War of Terror” has surprising similarities with what’s happening in organized religion. The principal is the same. If people are given an invisible enemy and put under an extreme amount of fear, they’ll throw out everything they’ve learned first hand, everything they know in their heart and even their common sense. Crowd control is the same in the church as it is in any governmental system. Just make the people afraid and you own them outright.

Darin and Robert talk about some of the clarifying revelations Darin has gotten in the last few months concerning his life and ministry. Having gone from questioning his calling, to laying it down altogether, to even redefining it, Darin has come full circle and is now starting to embrace a series of songs that have never left his heart. \"God is love.\" It\'s so easy to allow the flow of a ministry to define who you are and what you\'ll do in the future. Being willing to let everything go in an instant can be an amazing liberating feeling. The great thing about living free is that when things begin to take over your life you can always back away and go another direction. The important thing is that you\'re always true to the deepest part of your heart. 

Darin and Robert talk about the notion that we are called to do one job for God while here on earth. It’s so easy for us to spend the rest of our lives trying to find that specific job that God has called us to do, and in the process we can miss life altogether. Many people feel chained to a specific ministry or job because someone told them it was their calling. Just because you once had a heart for something, doesn’t mean you are married to that thing for life. It’s easy to live in guilt and condemnation because our heart’s passion for a specific thing isn’t as strong as it used to be and we feel like we’re not allowed to leave and do something else. Real freedom is being able to move from thing to thing throughout our lives without feeling like we MUST tie ourselves to any one thing. Until we are free enough to trust our heart, we simply cannot ever know the joy of finding that sweet spot in life.

Darin and Robert talk about the constant struggle that Free Believers have when it comes to understanding prayer. So many of us attempt to replace our institutional prayer life with something else that\'s like it but different. Darin talks about how he is coming to the understanding that prayer in the wild is something that happens continuously within our hearts. Rather than attempting to develop an organized prayer life, Darin is discovering that he has a prayer life already. Life is now about uniting our heads with the continuous prayers of our hearts. It\'s about learning to hear the cry of our heart and embracing it. 

Darin and Robert talk about how sometimes life takes us to a point where nothing else matters but hearing and knowing God. When all that surrounds you ceases to matter as it did in days past, God\'s voice seems to sound stronger than ever. Being able to tell the difference between what really matters and what doesn\'t is really a path to freedom. Darin also gives an update on his current condition and how it has affected him personally. 

Darin, Aimee and Lonnie talk about coming to that point in life when you begin to second guess everything. Is it okay? Is it a sign that you\'re out of the will of God, or is it just a normal phase in life? So much of what we have been taught has suggested that we have a specific job to perform while here on earth and because of those teachings many of us are plagued with feelings of insecurity. Is there a way that we can accept life as it comes and know that God is sovereign through it all? 

Darin and Aimee talk with Darin’s friend Lonnie Bellon from Ruidoso New Mexico. The three discuss the profound affect that the freedom message has on their lives and how knowing a loving God is so completely different from anything religion has to offer. Lonnie spent his entire life trying to follow the rules and add up to a religious system that proved to be empty and useless in the end. He expresses how incredible life became the moment he was allowed to trust in the melody of what his own heart was singing. Learning to live from that place in our hearts that has been denied for so long is the name of the game!

Darin gets a chance to sit down with Daniel Venie in Wasilla Alaska. They talk about how difficult it is for people who are still inside the walls of the institution to understand what has taken place in our lives. So often they see it as an anti-church attitude or a posture of arrogance. When bondage to the law falls off and real freedom trickles in for the first time it’s bewildering to those around you.

Darin and Aimee travel all the way to Wasilla Alaska and find time to record a podcast with their long time friends Heather Sterling and Daniel Venie. Because of some of Darin’s recent medical issues, the conversation turns to the subject of how to deal with suffering. Heather Sterling is no stranger to suffering and is currently on the list for a Kidney transplant. She offers some amazing insight to Darin as well as some thoughts and ideas that could be life changing to many. Learning to live in the NOW rather than focusing on the future or the past is just one of many things that suffering teaches. This is an amazing interview that everyone should hear.

Darin and Amy talk about how wonderful it is to finally be free from having to force everyone believe exactly how YOU believe. Demanding the everyone be on the same page as you is religion’s biggest hold on the church today. Friendships are abandoned, entire families are excommunicated, personal attacks are launched and life-long relationships are shunned over differences of opinions on things that don’t really matter either way. Only heartlessness survives in a climate where belief is micromanaged to a point where individuality is snuffed out completely.