What if everything we think we know about the future of work is just a half-step forward from the past?

In this provocative and insightful episode, Phil Kirschner—a former McKinsey consultant, WeWork strategist, and LinkedIn Top Voice—joins Rex Miller to challenge the conventional wisdom surrounding hybrid work, office design, and corporate real estate.

Drawing on his experience across finance, tech, and consulting, Phil reveals why most workplace strategies are stuck in Horizon One thinking—and how AI, gig work, and employee expectations are rapidly rewriting the rules.

You’ll hear fresh, candid takes on:

• Why “hybrid” is often a concession, not a strategy
• How corporate real estate lost its seat at the table
• What resilient organizations must embrace now to survive the next disruption
• And the surprising traits that define leaders who actually move the needle

Smart, surprising, and refreshingly honest—this is the conversation real estate and workplace leaders didn’t know they needed.

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