Ryan recently visited Grove HQ in SOMA in San Francisco to chat with two founders who know a ton about fintech.

Chris Hutchins was our gracious host and is CEO of Grove, a startup that uses people and technology to help you with your financial goals. Ryan actually met Chris in the early days of Product Hunt when he was an investor at Google Ventures. Before that, he started a company called Milk that was acquired by Google. All his life he's been a self-acknowledged financial nerd, often sharing his money-saving tips with friends, which was a large inspiration for starting Grove.

Jake Gibson is the co-founder of NerdWallet. The company started back in 2009 and helps consumers make smart financial decisions like “which credit card should I get?” or “what's the best savings account for me?” He left in 2014 and has since focused his time angel investing, primarily in fintech startups.

In this episode they discuss...

* How fintech has evolved over the past decade — and why it’s so hot right now.

* The top financial life hacks, including why Chris says he buys his groceries at OfficeMax.

* What the future holds for fintech and their favorite companies in the space.

* The rise of crypto and how it might impact fintech.

If you want to give Grove a try, check out hellogrove.com/producthunt to get $100 off.

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