In this episode of It’s About Payroll, we welcome Michael Steen, Client Solutions Director at Payroll Minds, for a powerful and insightful conversation on the intersection of payroll, leadership, and humanity. Michael shares his nontraditional journey from crisis intervention and mental health to global payroll consulting, and how compassion, personal branding, and listening are his keys to success.

We dive into:

What the future of payroll could—and should—look like

Why AI hasn’t quite arrived (yet) in payroll processing

The power of showing up authentically in a sales-driven world

The importance of building a personal brand on LinkedIn

Real talk on burnout, balance, and leading with kindness

If you’re a payroll professional, HR leader, or just someone who values thoughtful leadership and industry disruption, this episode is for you.

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