Sat down with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni, co-founders of Phia and co-hosts of The Burnouts podcast, to discuss their new quest to save consumers money and encourage them to buy secondhand as much as possible.

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Chapters

0:00 - Intro to Phoebe and Sophia

0:54 - Back Market partnership

2:30 - Intro to Phia

3:12 -  What makes them passionate

4:14 - Gen Z’s overconsumption problem

5:30 - Addressing their privilege 

6:30 - Their new podcast, The Burnouts

7:35 - Phia demo

11:01 - Prioritizing pricing vs secondhand options

11:37 - The most popular secondhand shopping apps

13:30 - Why they went with only a mobile browser extension

14:39 - Their competitors

16:17 - Keyword vs Image Ranking

16:45 - Being nontechnical founders

17:40 - Business incentives

18:27 - The future of Phia

21:37 - What people should take from this endeavor

23:33 - The future of The Burnouts

You can also find Phia on

Their website: https://phia.co/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phiaco/

You can also find The Burnouts on

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theburnoutspodcast

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theburnouts/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theburnouts

You can also find Phoebe on

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phoebegates/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@phoebegates

You can also find Sophia on

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophiakianni/

X/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/SophiaKianni

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sophiakianni

Intro animation by Black Book Studio: https://www.blackbook.studio/

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Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jules-terpak/id1772071442

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