Welcome back to This Is Definitely Not a Data Podcast, where Brendan and Lenno, sit down to unpack what happens when AI adoption moves from personal experiment to company-wide bet.

They start with why ChatGPT's real genius wasn't the model, but the humble Google-style search box that let everyone in from day one.

From there, Lenno shares his own hands-on testing of AI models on messy address data, and the pair compare Klarna's AI-first retreat with IKEA's decision to retrain its workforce instead of replacing it.

Warm, candid, and refreshingly honest, Brendan and Lenno keep circling back to the same conclusion: however far the technology goes, this is still a people problem.