Sometimes what we need most in grief is not answers, but to be seen.

In this episode, Patti sits with Rob, a chaplain, to explore what it means to truly accompany someone in pain. Through personal experiences and reflections from his work, Rob shares how healing can begin when someone is willing to sit with us, without trying to fix, solve, or take the pain away.

Together, they talk about the quiet, sacred moments where people allow themselves to be seen in their grief, the tension between wanting to fix suffering and learning to simply be present, and the impact of listening with curiosity instead of assumption. This conversation also explores faith, uncertainty, and the emotional complexity that can come when grief and belief intersect. Rather than offering answers, it invites a different way of showing up for ourselves and for others.

If you’ve ever wondered how to support someone in grief, or how to navigate your own, this episode offers a gentle and meaningful place to begin.

The Grief Between Us is part of The Waiting Place, a non-profit dedicated to supporting those navigating grief and loss.

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