Matt, Rudy, and Amelia sit down for a critical discussion about contemporary scientific management practices and frameworks, ranging from Lean, the Theory of Constraints, Improvement Kata to safety culture. Drawing on The Goal by E. M. Goldratt, Toyota Kata by Mike Rother, The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim et al., and other works, they explore what socialists can learn from scientific management to apply in their organizations and in economic planning. They also discuss critiques of scientific management by associates of the Monthly Review School including Harry Braverman and Michael D Yates, explore how J Sakai's idea of organizational Kata and security culture fits in with Toyota's Katas, and finish with the connections between the theories behind Lean/ToC and ecological theory and economic planning.