The media is full of images and stories of the wonderful side of conservation, including field work, research, travel, being outdoors and working closely with wildlife.

But what is working in conservation REALLY like?

Joining our host Dr Nick Askew is Head of Community, Dr Fernando Mateos-González - or Nando he’s often known - and Head of Engagement Kristi Foster, who together have nearly 50 years' experience working in the conservation sector.

We explore some of the unseen realities of working as a conservationist - the good, the bad, and the 'ugly' - including how to recognise good organisations from bad ones.