Season 19, Episode 11: For years, people have asked about the BEEF between us and The Grade Cricketer. The reality is, for a decade now, we've all been in this together. So, sure enough, here's the collab ep hosted by Sam Perry and Ian Higgins in their Melbourne studio as we both forget to talk about our new books. Instead: back stories, politics, Saudi money, the future and everything else you might expect with the four of us in the same place.

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