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  • A Conversation with a Protection Futurist
    When I sat down with Scot Walker and he began to tell me what he is reading and his passion for service, I realized I wasn’t talking to your typical security consultant. We dig deeply into the definition of a protector and the role of the stakeholders in creating a culture of security.
    Scot runs Walker & Associates a boutique Threat Mitigation, Investigations & Due Diligence firm. He helps Attorneys & Businesses make risk-informed decisions. Empowering his clients, such as attorneys and global businesses with information that will help them navigate risk and opportunity is his passion and his profession.
    30 min
  • Born for Impact
    Steven Bowler has been on a self-described journey to make an impact on his world. A former Marine, he is now responsible for a ground-up opportunity to reassess the management and impact of global security in one of the most recognized leaders of insurance, risk management and consulting services, Gallagher.  Gallagher is an international group of partners that provide cost-effective, client-centric, and expertise-driven risk management solutions. The leadership team fosters a dynamic, entrepreneurial culture that has made Gallagher an innovator in creating new products and services for our clients.
    We learn how Steven is carefully assessing and constructing the architecture of the risk, resilience, and security program including a Security Operations Center, Global Intelligence, as well as safely and securely monitoring travel for his stakeholders.
    Our conversation on the evolving human intelligence platform is intriguing and insightful.
    27 min
  • The Recipe for Creating Trust

    Mark Oakes has spent 40 years in security and owns 7 successful businesses. So, naturally, I wanted to know how he thinks about creating a valuable business. Our discussion quickly became a tutorial on the nature of trust, the ‘bedrock’ or cornerstone of a corporate DNA he has persistently nurtured. To Mark there is no grey. And rather then being a constraint, he sees it as enabling people to develop trust in themselves while earning the trust from others.

    You will want your pen in hand as he defines the path to trust.

    Mark is the founder and CEO of Concentric Security, one of the nation's foremost Perimeter Security Solutions Providers for homeland security and force protection applications that meet the federal guidelines and standards. They deliver a full range of services including planning, security engineering, technology selection, full site integration, construction and follow-on service and maintenance

    25 min
  • A Window of Opportunity for the Next Generation Risk Operations Center

    The times call for trusted advisors backed by a cutting-edge risk operations center leveraging a network of human and digital assets. It is a model that is difficult to fund, design, operate, and maintain. But there is a window of opportunity to fundamentally change the way companies manage their risk and to executives like Robert Dodge, that time is now.

    Robert Dodge is the CEO of Global Risk Services at Prosegur, a world leader in the private security industry. Through its five business lines —Prosegur Security, Prosegur Cash, Prosegur Alarms, Cipher and Prosegur AVOS— it offers companies, households, and retail businesses security they can trust, based on the most advanced solutions in the market.

    Robert has a proven track record of building high performing businesses/teams spanning multiple regions around the world. He was formerly responsible for G4S Corporate Risk Services Division which provides specialized protective/investigative/consulting and intelligence services globally.

    22 min
  • A Culture of Development
    I don’t know how to describe these two minds. They have mastered the art of the question anchored by a deep background in the science of human behavior and a deep empathetic heart for everyone’s individual journey.
    By their questions and insights, we begin to explore the question “How do I see?”
    This WiLD process ( Whole + Intentional Leader Development), becomes the north star that integrates the functional areas of our lives with the human reality of our hearts and minds.
    A little background: Rob McKenna, PhD is the Founder + Chief Executive Officer of WiLD Leaders. He was named among the top 30 most influential I-O Psychologists. He has been a TEDx Speaker, and featured in Forbes,
    His research and coaching with leaders across corporate, not-for-profit and university settings has given him insight into the real and gritty experience of leaders. His clients have included the Boeing Company, Microsoft, Heineken, Foster Farms, the United Way, Alaska Airlines and Children’s Hospital. He is the author of numerous articles and chapters on leadership character, calling, effectiveness, and leadership under pressure. He served as the Chair of Industrial-Organizational Psychology at Seattle Pacific University up until 2020, with a total time at SPU of 25 years. His latest book, Composed: The Heart and Science of Leading Under Pressure, focuses on the specific strategies leaders can use to stay true to themselves and connected to others when it matters most. Rob lives in Kirkland with his wife, Jackie, and their two sons.
    Daniel Hallak, PhD is WiLD’s Chief Commercial Officer driving strategic commercial initiatives, and other operations such as product development, and marketing efforts that support the development of whole leaders. Before WiLD, he spent over a decade developing whole leaders in business, academic, and not-for-profit settings. He earned his Ph.D. and M.A. in Industrial-Organizational Psychology from Seattle Pacific University.
    37 min
  • The Scorecard for Managing the Fragility of our Ecosystem

    Lisa Oliveri is the Director of Global Safety and Security for EDC (Education Development Center), a global nonprofit that advances lasting solutions to improve education, promote health, and expand economic opportunity. EDC has been a leader in designing, implementing, and evaluating powerful and innovative programs in more than 80 countries around the world.

    With this global perspective, I sought to find out how this business-savvy global influencer in security management was understanding our world at this moment and what guidance she could give us in helping us achieve a measure of personal and corporate readiness.

    Lisa oversees all activities related to security, risk assessment and management, crisis response, protocol development, information analysis, and technical assistance to the field. She manages security for international projects and advises on US Home Office security policies and procedures. She also is coordinating EDC’s international crisis response protocols, supporting business continuity planning, and assisting with incident management.


    As you can imagine, she must maintain a detailed knowledge of the national and regional security and operating environments where EDC works, the changing security dynamics and trends, and how that may affect EDC project operations and implementation. This means collaborating regularly with members of Legal, HR, IT, Operations, Facilities, and others to support EDC projects and operations.

    24 min
  • The Moment for Meta-Leadership

    Eric McNulty is the Associate Director of The National Preparedness Leadership Initiative (NPLI). NLPI is a joint venture of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health’s Division of Policy Translation and Leadership Development and the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership.

    NLPI has a crisis leadership training and research program dedicated to preparing those who lead in safety and security, business continuity, and disaster preparedness, response, recovery, and mitigation. They have trained more than 10,000 leaders across 30 U.S. States and 10 countries.

    Which brings us to the book. I originally tracked down Eric to understand a term he used: Meta Leadership. This took us on a journey to understand the term ‘leadership’ and the need for a big picture view.

    Why is this needed? Today, in an instant, leaders can find themselves face-to-face with crisis. An active shooter. A media controversy. A data breach. In You're It: Crisis, Change, and How to Lead When It Matters Most, the faculty of the National Preparedness Leadership Initiative at Harvard University takes you to the front lines of some of the toughest decisions facing our nation's leaders-from how to mobilize during a hurricane or in the aftermath of a bombing to halting a raging pandemic. They also take readers through the tough decision-making inside the world's largest companies, hottest startups, and leading nonprofits.


    Eric McNulty and his co-authors introduce readers to the pragmatic model and methods of Meta-Leadership. They show you how to understand what is happening during a moment of crisis and change, what to do about it, and how to hone these skills to lead high-performing teams. Then, when crisis hits, you can pivot to be the leader people follow when it matters most.

    26 min
  • Surfing the Data Tidal Wave: Risk Intelligence Moving from Analog to Digital
    Back in the day, embedded intelligence teams worked with few resources, limited budget, and little to no technology. They had their art and their science. They had a process, but never called it a workflow. Their data was captured through face-to-face interviews, phone and post it notes.
    Now we have human and digital sensors and a tidal wave of data. Technology must be involved at a scale we never imagined… back in the day.
    We asked Tom Kopecky, who bookended both the analog world and the digital in investigative intelligence, to take us through this evolution, break it down for us, and provide us some thoughts on where it goes next and why. What we found is the new technology is bridging the old organizational silos, the technology silos, and the communication silos that have kept us from the promise of proactive and protective intelligence. As well, it is opening the door to non-intelligence personnel through its guided workflows and multi-modal communications.
    Tom was a founder of IRC Intelligence & Fortis Protective Services, both boutique security intelligence firms with offices located in Chicago & Austin, where he helped clients coordinate threat assessment investigations and develop their protective intelligence programs. He and his team were constantly searching for more optimized approaches to create more insights in the protective intelligence workflow. He eventually decided to build his own as the co-founder of Ontic Technologies.
    27 min
  • When Security Matters to the Customer, the Stakeholder, and the Business
    Are hospital employees concerned for their safety and security? Are they making this part of their evaluation on whether to become an employee or whether they stay? Is the business of the hospital disrupted by an unusual number of potential and actual WPV incidents?
    We turned to an executive leader at a hospital that has a cultural DNA of innovation and change, to find out if the risk, resilience, and security program is keeping pace. If you listen to the entire podcast, you will discover the answers to the above questions as well as some key technologies that are helping them, make important data driven decisions.
    Mark Reed, CHPA, is currently the Director of Support Services at Martin Luther King Jr. Community Hospital, (MLKCH) in South Central Los Angeles overseeing Security, Safety, Emergency Management, PBX, Parking, and numerous other programs.
    Mark was recognized by Campus Safety Magazine as the 2019 Director of the Year. Under Mark’s leadership, the MLKCH Public Safety team was recognized as the 2019 Outstanding Security Team at the OSPAs presented by ASIS. He also is a current member of the Hospital Association of Southern California’s Safety and Security Committee. And in 2020, he was named one of the most influential security leaders in the world by Security Magazine.
    26 min
  • Why Cities and Buildings Need to Get Smarter to be Safer
    Back in 2020, we were able to meet Martin Gasulla at The Great Conversation which was being held in Palm Beach Florida. At the time he was managing the Security Operations Center for Vicente López in a partido in the Buenos Aires Province of Argentina 20 kilometers north of downtown Buenos Aires and 80 kilometers north of the city of La Plata, the provincial capital. It is one of the country´s most affluent municipalities. In this podcast following our forum, Martin outlines his journey in helping his city become more safe, secure, sustainable and, most importantly, more efficient and valuable to its citizens. Martin deployed a comprehensive network of cameras, backed by an open and highly interoperable VMS and Communication technology backbone.
    38 min

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