0:04: Host Andrew Vosko welcomes his guest, Javier Rodríguez from Claremont Graduate University, who's an associate professor in the Department of Public Policy.

1:00: Javier discusses his academic journey, beginning in Colombia with the study of engineering and bringing him to the study of public policy—with novel and poetry writing on the side.

4:50: Javier talks about coming to UCLA and working across various disciplines, including psychology, computer science, mathematics, and philosophy.

13:00: Javier talks about being driven by an artistic sense of curiosity and even obsession. 

18:48: Andrew and Javier discuss the nature of identity in an existential and cognitive sense. 

22:42: Andrew and Javier talk about how we simultaneously navigate multiple and often conflicting realities. 

27:55: Javier responds to the question of how he developed the mindset and skills for negotiating multiple perspectives or realities. 

37:18: Andrew talks about political and practical challenges and the role of transdisciplinary thought in integrating multiple perspectives.

41:00: Andrew and Javier discuss the notion of scientists as politicians. 

44:53: Using Javier’s career as an example, Andrew asks how we may foster more boundary-crossing.

51:59: Andrew and Javier attempt to define inequality versus equity.