Introducing Wonder Media Network’s first true crime show, I Was Never There. Thirty-four years ago, Marsha “Mudd” Ferber vanished without a trace from Morgantown, WV. Mother-daughter duo Karen and Jamie Zelermyer are going back to the land to figure out what the hell happened. Named a 2022 Tribeca Film Festival official selection for audio storytelling, I Was Never There is as much true crime show as it is an ode to Appalachian countercultural movements of the 1970s and 1980s. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. 

For archival photos, videos, and more, follow I Was Never There on Instagram. For more information on the show and to get in touch with the team, check out our website. 

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I Was Never There is a Wonder Media Network production. It's hosted by Jamie Zelermyer and Karen Zelermyer. It's produced by Allie Wollner, Lindsey Kratochwill, Adesuwa Agbonile, and Liz Smith. It's edited by Jenny Kaplan and Liz Smith. Our executive producers are Jenny Kaplan, Jamie Zelermyer and Karen Zelermyer. Production assistance by Alesandra Tejeda. Our music supervisor is Sarah Tembeckjian. The theme music is "Take Me Home Country Roads" by John Denver, performed by Brandi Carlile.

After working at and then leaving several jobs, Kenya Williams was feeling undervalued  in the corporate world. She tried a short stint as an entrepreneur before realizing that she liked the corporate world– she just needed to make some adjustments. On this week’s episode, Kenya shares the importance of managing expectations, asking for what you need, setting boundaries, and not taking things too personally. 

1:19 Kenya’s ambidexterity

2:09 How she got into her current career

3:26 Burnout in corporate America

6:13 What Kenya learned from her career coach

8:49 Leverage when you come into a new role

12:40 Checklist for not taking things too personally

15:54 Doing your job versus managing your career 

19:34 Speed round

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

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From music major to stock picker to CEO - Whitney Johnson has had quite the unconventional career path. But with a combination of self-advocacy and fearlessness, Whitney has become a successful author, business leader, and executive coach. In this week’s episode, she explains her method for starting new projects and how to approach those uncomfortable moments in your career.

• 1:24 - Whitney’s transition from music major to stock picker
• 3:14 - Advice for people making a major career change
• 6:40 - The origin of Whitney’s advocacy for herself
• 7:57 - Mini coaching session 
• 15:20 - Advice on starting something new
• 20:16 - Speedround

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

To claim your exclusive offer of 40% off a Calm Premium subscription, go to CALM.COM/growth. 

When she was growing up, Jayshree Seth wasn’t sure science was for her - now, with 70+ patents under her belt, she’s more certain. Over the course of her career, Jayshree climbed the ranks at 3M to become a Corporate Scientist, and in 2018 became the company’s Chief Science Advocate. In today’s episode, Jayshree talks about why she loves science, and how she solves big problems by finding the context.

1:30 - Jayshree’s forray into music production, and trying new things

3:30 - Jayshree’s work as Chief Science Advocate 

6:10 - How Jayshree started out

11:12 - How Jayshree ‘finds the context’ to solve problems

15:48 - How Jayshree uses communication to manage up 

19:12 - Speed round 

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Go to LinkedIn.com/TGL to post your job for free. 

Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit athleticgreens.com/GROWTH today.

At the beginning of her career, Michele Promaulayko’s plan was to climb the ranks of the magazine industry and secure a corner office. But as the industry shifted, so did her plans. Now, Michele is a multi-hyphenate - author, podcast host, and editorial director - who has found the value in building her own brand. This episode, she shares advice on how we can all work to build our brands, along with other lessons she’s learned along her career journey. 

1:13 - Michele’s experience with an energy therapist

3:10 - How Michele got a corner office - then left it behind

9:34 - Michele’s advice on building your own brand

15:05 - Speed Round

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

Listen to Michele's new podcast, Messy Situations, wherever you get your podcasts! 

LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Go to LinkedIn.com/TGL to post your job for free. 

Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit athleticgreens.com/GROWTH today.

Jen Dudeck didn’t set her sights on being the Chief People Officer of a global software company when she first started her career. But when an opportunity presented itself, Jen took a leap of faith and didn’t look back. In this week’s episode, Jen details how following her instincts, recognizing the need for balance in her life, and most importantly leaning into what makes her unique led to her success today. 

• 1:40 - How Jen finds balance
• 5:58 - Jen’s career humbling moment
• 7:52 - How Jen became Chief People Officer
• 9:50 - Being opportunistic vs. being a planner
• 13:48 - Jen’s career failure
• 16:06 - How to think about your career 
• 20:32 - Speed Round

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders.

To claim your exclusive offer of 40% off a Calm Premium subscription, go to CALM.COM/growth. 

In this week’s episode, Diana talks with Kate Robinson about the importance of not only knowing the value you offer but also tracking it. Kate has incorporated this practice of documenting her value into her professional habits for growth, and she explains how it’s benefitted her professionally and personally. This practice in addition to her fearless approach to life has undoubtedly contributed to her success.

• 1:15 - Why Kate got her motorcycle license
• 2:40 - Kate’s most memorable professional failure 
• 4:35 - How to communicate and track your value
• 11:08 - Kate’s post-maternity leave experience
• 20:34 - How Kate approaches negotiations 
• 24:54 - The biggest oops of Kate’s career

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Go to LinkedIn.com/TGL to post your job for free. 

Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit athleticgreens.com/GROWTH today.

Noelle Kim has worked in a variety of industries - from food to tech. But no matter where she's worked, she’s gotten ahead by delivering an incredible first impression. This episode, she gives her advice on how we can all get better at first impressions, how to build trust with your team, and what her various career pivots have taught her. 

1:15 - How Noelle got a meat exporters license 

2:25 - How Noelle started her career 

4:30 - Noelle’s pivot into technology

6:40 - The importance of building trust 

12:20 - How to give a great first impression

16:35 - Speed Round

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

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Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit athleticgreens.com/GROWTH today. 

When Francoise Brougher took the job as the first COO of Pinterest, she never could’ve guessed that it would end in termination and a gender discrimination lawsuit.  This week, Francoise shares the details of her time at Pinterest, how she climbed the corporate ladder at Google, and what intentional reflection can do for your career. 

2:45 - Francoise’s termination from Pinterest

4:34 - How to operate in toxic work environments

8:11 - How to give constructive feedback

11:40 - Francoise’s experience at Google

13:15 - What it means to be a good leader

16:33 - The importance of reflection

18:30 - Speed round

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

Take a listen to Business Casual, where Journalist Nora Ali and comedian Scott Rogowsky bring on creators, thinkers and innovators to explain unexpected business stories and why you should care!

This week, we’re joined by Melanie Bell-Mayeda, the Head of Strategy and Operations, Insights and Innovation at Google.  Melanie shares how zooming out and thinking about the bigger picture has helped her maneuver through challenges, how she approaches ‘designing’ her career, and how returning to dance has improved her professional life. 

1:14 - How Melanie’s love of dancing translates to her professional life

2:36 - How Melanie handles professional challenges by zooming out

5:22 - Melanie’s decision to move toGoogle 

9:29 - Melanie’s ‘reverse resume’ 

11:51 - Speed round

Hi, I’m Diana Kander and like you, I feel the call to grow. I'm a midwestern mom of two, balancing a career as a keynote speaker, and trying to leave the world a little bit better than I found it. Each week on The Growth League, I seek out the most remarkable women leaders and uncover their rules for growth. Whether you’re trying to get better at your presentation skills, get that next promotion or even do your first pullup, each episode will provide you with a New Rule for Growth to supercharge your efforts! 

The Growth League is more than just a podcast. It’s a community. To join this incredible community, subscribe to our newsletter and join our Facebook group full of like-minded growth-oriented leaders. 

Take a listen to Business Casual, where Journalist Nora Ali and comedian Scott Rogowsky bring on creators, thinkers and innovators to explain unexpected business stories and why you should care!