Just chatting with 42CEO and Emwell — the guys who help me keep up with my favorite music scene. Enjoy. 

Chapters

0:00 - Just chatting

1:10 - 42’s background

4:50 - Hiring clippers

6:06 - A&Rs

8:10 - 42’s background (Continued)

13:27 - Emwell’s background

22:15 - Rich Amiri 

23:34 - Why I know them 

26:17 - The underground media scene

27:09 - Underground rap is extremely online

28:49- Concerts

29:28 - What “underground” means in modern times

32:14 - The relationship between age and music 

34:58 - Everyone’s ability to make music (+ 42’s song)

38:18 - Producers

41:17 - Soundcloud’s impact (Ex: the repost feature)

44:25 - Playlists

46:00 - Top three albums of 2025

48:16 - Che and Rest in Bass

49:49 - Charli Xcx

50:45 - Oklou, Sophia Stel, and Jane Remover

51:46 - Top five songs of 2025

55:05 - Leaks 

58:57 - Clip farming 

1:00:05 - Rolling Loud 

1:00:47 - How 42 and Emwell met

1:02:00 - Destroy Lonely 

1:03:38 - Does the industry hate 42 (Ex: F1lthy)

1:08:12 - Playboi Carti following 42

1:10:14 - Nettspend, Osamason, and Xaviersobased

1:13:28 - Artists being mysterious 

1:15:18 - Artists coming and going 

1:17:51 - Studio sessions

1:19:33 - What’s to come

1:27:49 - Outro 

You can also find 42 on

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/42ceo/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@42ce0

X/Twitter: https://x.com/42CEO_

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@42ceo

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/42ceo_

You can also find Emwell on

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emwell_/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@emwell_

X/Twitter: https://x.com/_emwell_

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OurGenerationMusic

Intro animation by Black Book Studio: https://www.blackbook.studio/

You can also find me on

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julesterpak

Twitter: https://twitter.com/julesterpak

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@julesterpak

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/julesterpak/

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/julesterpak

Substack: https://www.julesterpak.com/

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/user/31cv2j5da4stkrv6mysp5xfetb3m

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jules-terpak/id1772071442

You can find "Fishbowl with Jules Terpak" on

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fishbowlpod

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fishbowlpod

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fishbowlpod/

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4WkJ18YFr9s8OSXGIx1fM9

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fishbowl-with-jules-terpak/id1787042781

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Other: https://discord.gg/8ueURBRvc7

My production gear: https://amzn.to/3OFWWJv

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