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SHOW NOTES:
0:00 artist & attorney Gina McKlveen
1:05 artist & retired judge Jerry Alonzo - the impact of depression
3:00 documentary American Symphony
3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer
6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance”
6:40 “Civic Sacrement"
8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge
9:00 “The Jury Box”
10:45 “The Judgment”
11:45 “Justice is God’s Plumb Line”
12:30 Environmental works like “Monstronse”
13:15 “Justice?”
14:15 “Passage”
14:40 “Faltering”
16:00 “Arc”
16:25 asylum work inspired “Matthew 25”
20:30 importance of leaning into the pain
21:35 Emily Gould’s comments
23:30 American Symphony - leaning into anxiety through art
26:25 McKlveen’s response to Alonzo’s work
26:45 “Upturned House” by Phyllida Barlow
27:20 “Inflated Balloons”
27:50 Carnegie International
28:40 McKlveen’s work leaning into grief and loss
29:35 “Fisherman on the Roof”
37:45 “Mermaid Mama”
39:25 “Stay Wild”
40:15 “Heather’s Mama”
42:00 McKlveen’s grandparents
44:50 portraiture versus still life works
47:00 other artists who created still life paintings as portraits, e.g., Van Gogh
48:30 Alonzo’s response to McKlveen
49:05 Gould’s response to McKlveen
49:45 Oluwatobi Aluko’s response
51:00 McKlveen’s planned portrait of grandmother with post box like Mona Lisa
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]
By Stephanie Drawdy5
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SHOW NOTES:
0:00 artist & attorney Gina McKlveen
1:05 artist & retired judge Jerry Alonzo - the impact of depression
3:00 documentary American Symphony
3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer
6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance”
6:40 “Civic Sacrement"
8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge
9:00 “The Jury Box”
10:45 “The Judgment”
11:45 “Justice is God’s Plumb Line”
12:30 Environmental works like “Monstronse”
13:15 “Justice?”
14:15 “Passage”
14:40 “Faltering”
16:00 “Arc”
16:25 asylum work inspired “Matthew 25”
20:30 importance of leaning into the pain
21:35 Emily Gould’s comments
23:30 American Symphony - leaning into anxiety through art
26:25 McKlveen’s response to Alonzo’s work
26:45 “Upturned House” by Phyllida Barlow
27:20 “Inflated Balloons”
27:50 Carnegie International
28:40 McKlveen’s work leaning into grief and loss
29:35 “Fisherman on the Roof”
37:45 “Mermaid Mama”
39:25 “Stay Wild”
40:15 “Heather’s Mama”
42:00 McKlveen’s grandparents
44:50 portraiture versus still life works
47:00 other artists who created still life paintings as portraits, e.g., Van Gogh
48:30 Alonzo’s response to McKlveen
49:05 Gould’s response to McKlveen
49:45 Oluwatobi Aluko’s response
51:00 McKlveen’s planned portrait of grandmother with post box like Mona Lisa
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

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