If there is one thing I notice when I look around at the IETF—and many other places where I meet a lot of network operations and engineering folk—it's that we all seem to be getting a bit older. This should lead us to an obvious question—what are we doing about bringing up a new generation of network engineers? David Huberman joins Tom Ammon and I to discuss this interesting question. David i s involved in a number of community-based efforts to train next generation network engineers, some of which he discusses in his excellent article at the APNIC blog.