In this thought-provoking episode, Fred Burton is joined by the distinguished author Annie Jacobsen. Jacobsen's works, including the Pulitzer Prize finalist The Pentagon’s Brain and the New York Times bestsellers Nuclear War, Area 51, and Operation Paperclip, have shed light on some of the most secretive aspects of national security and warfare.

Annie, a celebrated investigative journalist and a Princeton University alumna, sits down with Fred to discuss her latest bestseller, Nuclear War. This book dives into the chilling details of nuclear warfare's catastrophic effects, aiming to highlight the importance of prevention over preparation. Don't miss this riveting dialogue that goes beyond the pages of Annie’s book to address the critical need for contingency planning, the implications for North America and beyond, and the pivotal choices facing global powers today.

Tune in to Annie’s conversation with Fred Burton as they:

• Reflect on the importance of national security in the context of nuclear warfare and discuss contingency planning for nuclear events
• Dive into critical conversations on how nations have historically managed the threat of nuclear war through deterrence strategies and ongoing efforts to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons
• Explore the stark realities and potential aftermath of nuclear conflict across various countries and share the immediate and long-term impacts on human life, the environment, and global politics

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