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  • The Story about the Print Story

    Mohwak Valley History on the World Wide Web and Public Radio

    The Historians Go Fund Me for 2022 needs a slight(small in degree) push

     $150.00 by this Thursday, June 30, 2022

    Update: $100.00 raised over the weekend Thank You 

    A check in the mail to:

    Bob Cudmore 125 Horstman Drive, Scotia, New York 12302

    or use your mouse

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022  

    Daily Gazette https://dailygazette.com/
     
    Van Curler descendants coming to Schenectady for reunion, quest to learn about city’s founder
    For those individuals who enjoy history but don’t really dig into the details, the book on Arent Van Curler is…

    Three Amsterdam train tragedies

    By Bob Cudmore, Focus on History 

       Three Amsterdam accidents involving New York Central passenger trains in the 20th century resulted in a total of 18 fatalities.

       On April 8, 1918, the Empire State Express collided with a freight train near Henrietta Street in the West End shortly after Noon.  An eastbound passenger train, the New England Express, subsequently crashed into the derailment. 

       The engineer of the Empire State, John R. Botts of Albany, and the fireman, William Barringer, died.  It was considered miraculous that there were only two fatalities among the 60 people injured.

        Eight lives were lost May 6, 1924 when the Twentieth Century Limited passenger train struck a car being driven across the tracks near Dicaprio’s produce farm just east of Amsterdam.

       The automobile in the 1924 accident was driven by John Acee, 45, a clothing merchant on the South Side who was an immigrant from Syria.   Acee, his wife Emmeline, 33, their three children (Julia, Thomas and Joseph), Mrs. Acee’s sister (Sahandra Herb), the sister’s daughter (Mary) and an Italian immigrant (David Sprone) died when the car was struck by the fast moving train.

       Recorder history columnist Tony Pacelli saw the 1924 accident, which took place at a track crossing near Quist’s Lumber at Luther Street, “We worked on the DiCaprio’s farm during the summer months and were waiting for DiCaprio’s flatbed truck to take us home.  Mr. Acee was told to wait, for the train was due at any minute.  He did not comprehend.”  

       Pacelli said a small dog also was in the Acee car, “Mr. Acee was on track two and had trouble shifting the car when the train struck it.  No one survived but the dog, who ran down the tracks.”

       The Recorder reported the animal waited patiently but in vain for his favorite, Julia, to come home from school the day after the accident, “Through some means beyond his canine comprehension he has been bereft of a beloved playmate.”

       More than 100 Syrian-Americans came for the funerals from various Upstate New York cities, adding to the thousands of Amsterdam mourners.  Word was passed to local restaurants to feed the Syrian guests, keep track of the charges and present the bills to relatives of the Acee family.

       The wake was held at Dugan’s Hall of St. Mary’s Institute on Forbes Street after crowds overwhelmed the Perillo and Gilston undertaking parlors.

       The third accident was on June 15, 1945.  Eight men working on the main line tracks just east of Amsterdam were killed when struck by the Water Level Limited passenger train.  The men were from Mexico and had been hired to work on the railroad because so many American men were at war.   

       According to historian Hugh Donlon, the eight Mexican workers who perished were part of a group of 65 working on track maintenance that day.  Donlon said bodies were strewn along the tracks for a quarter mile.

       The eight Mexicans were buried in a mass grave at St. Mary’s Cemetery. Their bodies were taken to the cemetery in a procession of eight hearses.

       Diane Hale Smith of Amsterdam did research on the accident, “I located their unmarked burial place, using cemetery records and made arrangements for a headstone and urn to be put over the mass grave.”

       Smith said, “I imagined how future generations would hear the story of how these men had died so far from home.  It symbolized for me so many of our ancestors who ventured far from home never to return again--my own Swedish grandfather, to name just one… These eight men were building our rail system and lost their lives doing it.”

    Todays rain should produce a puddle or two..

    Tomorrow, Tuesday, June 28, 2022

    Puddle Program scheduled at Schoharie Crossing

    “There's nothing shallow about a puddle! Puddles are homes, bathtubs, and drinking fountains for wildlife.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/schohariecrossing

    The Friends of Schoharie Crossing State Historic Site will wrap up Great Outdoors month on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:30pm by hosting environmental educator and author Anita Sanchez for the program, “Hello, Puddles!” This family friendly program will be conducted from the Enders House on Schoharie Street in Fort Hunter, near the Visitor Center.

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Monday, June 27, 2022

    Showers and thunderstorms likely before noon, then a slight chance of showers between noon and 1pm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Cloudy through mid morning, then gradual clearing, with a high near 76. Southwest wind 9 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.
    Tonight
    Mostly clear, with a low around 53. West wind 8 to 13 mph.
    Tuesday
    Mostly sunny, with a high near 74. West wind 7 to 10 mph.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Monday, June 27, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Van Curler descendants coming to Schenectady for reunion, quest to learn about city’s founder
    For those individuals who enjoy history but don’t really dig into the details, the book on Arent Van Curler is…
     
    Gloversville Common Council rejects Elk Street Park project bid
    After only receiving one bid for the city’s project to put up fencing and a new sidewalk for the expanded…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    CDPHP, MVP, other health insurers seek major rate hikes in 2023
    ALBANY — Health insurers are asking state regulators for their largest premium increases in several years — a weighted average…
     
    Mohawks score trio of mercy-rule wins over weekend
     
    The Amsterdam Mohawks needed to play just 17 innings to pick up a trio of wins over the weekend

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    8 min
  • House Museum

    If your driving thru The Mohawk Valley this weekend and tuning around the FM radio dial, keep an ear "out" for the Historians Podcast on several radio stations, same across The Southern Tier.

    The Historians Go Fund Me effort for 2022 needs a little elbow grease

    Need to raise $250.00 by this coming Thursday, June 30, 2022

    Current and stuck at $2950.00-Goal $6000.00

    Thank You

    If good for you, a check in the mail to:

    Bob Cudmore 125 Horstman Drive, Scotia, New York 12302

    or like trying to get away with 75mph on The New York State Thruway just click:

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022  

    Saturday, June 25, 2022-From the Archives- June 14, 2019-Episode 270-Deborah Emmons-Andarawis is executive director at Historic Cherry Hill, an 18th century house museum on South Pearl Street in Albany New York.  Hear about the lives of the former residents and the gripping tale of a murder at Cherry Hill in the 1800s.

    Tomorrow, Sunday, June 26, 2022-Focus on History

    Three Amsterdam train tragedies

    The automobile in the 1924 accident was driven by John Acee, 45, a clothing merchant on the South Side who was an immigrant from Syria.

    Ben Kemp Historians Episode 428 

    Puddle Program scheduled at Schoharie Crossing

    “There's nothing shallow about a puddle! Puddles are homes, bathtubs, and drinking fountains for wildlife.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/schohariecrossing

    The Friends of Schoharie Crossing State Historic Site will wrap up Great Outdoors month on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:30pm by hosting environmental educator and author Anita Sanchez for the program, “Hello, Puddles!” This family friendly program will be conducted from the Enders House on Schoharie Street in Fort Hunter, near the Visitor Center.

    Mohawk Valley Weather for the Weekend, Saturday, June 25, 2022

    Sunny, with a high near 87. Calm wind becoming southwest around 6 mph in the afternoon.
    Tonight
    Mostly clear, with a low around 61. Calm wind.
    Sunday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 90. Calm wind becoming southwest 5 to 9 mph in the morning.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Saturday, June 25, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion
    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has ended constitutional protections for abortion that had been in place nearly 50 years…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    Anger and joy at Supreme Court abortion ruling
     
    Friday’s Supreme Court ruling overturning the landmark Roe v. Wade decision drew everything...

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    8 min
  • It's Sunday but it's Monday you can't trust

    The new column (Congressmen from Amsterdam) in the Gazette this Weekend

    Amsterdam is being moved out of Tonko’s 20th Congressional district and will become part of the 21st district.  

    https://dailygazette.com/

     (pick up a copy of the paper-paper or subscribe on-line)

    Posted on Bob Cudmore dot com next Weekend

    Today, Sunday, June 26, 2022

    Three Amsterdam train tragedies

    By Bob Cudmore, Focus on History 

       Three Amsterdam accidents involving New York Central passenger trains in the 20th century resulted in a total of 18 fatalities.

       On April 8, 1918, the Empire State Express collided with a freight train near Henrietta Street in the West End shortly after Noon.  An eastbound passenger train, the New England Express, subsequently crashed into the derailment. 

       The engineer of the Empire State, John R. Botts of Albany, and the fireman, William Barringer, died.  It was considered miraculous that there were only two fatalities among the 60 people injured.

        Eight lives were lost May 6, 1924 when the Twentieth Century Limited passenger train struck a car being driven across the tracks near Dicaprio’s produce farm just east of Amsterdam.

       The automobile in the 1924 accident was driven by John Acee, 45, a clothing merchant on the South Side who was an immigrant from Syria.   Acee, his wife Emmeline, 33, their three children (Julia, Thomas and Joseph), Mrs. Acee’s sister (Sahandra Herb), the sister’s daughter (Mary) and an Italian immigrant (David Sprone) died when the car was struck by the fast moving train.

       Recorder history columnist Tony Pacelli saw the 1924 accident, which took place at a track crossing near Quist’s Lumber at Luther Street, “We worked on the DiCaprio’s farm during the summer months and were waiting for DiCaprio’s flatbed truck to take us home.  Mr. Acee was told to wait, for the train was due at any minute.  He did not comprehend.”  

       Pacelli said a small dog also was in the Acee car, “Mr. Acee was on track two and had trouble shifting the car when the train struck it.  No one survived but the dog, who ran down the tracks.”

       The Recorder reported the animal waited patiently but in vain for his favorite, Julia, to come home from school the day after the accident, “Through some means beyond his canine comprehension he has been bereft of a beloved playmate.”

       More than 100 Syrian-Americans came for the funerals from various Upstate New York cities, adding to the thousands of Amsterdam mourners.  Word was passed to local restaurants to feed the Syrian guests, keep track of the charges and present the bills to relatives of the Acee family.

       The wake was held at Dugan’s Hall of St. Mary’s Institute on Forbes Street after crowds overwhelmed the Perillo and Gilston undertaking parlors.

    Tomorrow, Monday, June 27, 2022-The story behind the story podcast- Three Amsterdam train tragedies (Eight minutes with information not in the print story)

       The third accident was on June 15, 1945.  Eight men working on the main line tracks just east of Amsterdam were killed when struck by the Water Level Limited passenger train.  The men were from Mexico and had been hired to work on the railroad because so many American men were at war.   

       According to historian Hugh Donlon, the eight Mexican workers who perished were part of a group of 65 working on track maintenance that day.  Donlon said bodies were strewn along the tracks for a quarter mile.

       The eight Mexicans were buried in a mass grave at St. Mary’s Cemetery. Their bodies were taken to the cemetery in a procession of eight hearses.

       Diane Hale Smith of Amsterdam did research on the accident, “I located their unmarked burial place, using cemetery records and made arrangements for a headstone and urn to be put over the mass grave.”

       Smith said, “I imagined how future generations would hear the story of how these men had died so far from home.  It symbolized for me so many of our ancestors who ventured far from home never to return again--my own Swedish grandfather, to name just one… These eight men were building our rail system and lost their lives doing it.”

    The Historians Go Fund Me effort for 2022 needs just a little more elbow grease due to a great $100.00 donation Saturday night

     $150.00 to go by this Thursday, June 30, 2022

    Current and unstuck from $2950.00 to $3050.00-Goal $6000.00 by this December 31.

    We can deal with that later.

    Thank You (Mohwak Valley History on the internet and radio)

    Two ways to address this

    ...a check in the mail to:

    Bob Cudmore 125 Horstman Drive, Scotia, New York 12302

    or "click"

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022  

    Day after tomorrow, Tuesday, June 28, 2022

    Puddle Program scheduled at Schoharie Crossing

    “There's nothing shallow about a puddle! Puddles are homes, bathtubs, and drinking fountains for wildlife.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/schohariecrossing

    The Friends of Schoharie Crossing State Historic Site will wrap up Great Outdoors month on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:30pm by hosting environmental educator and author Anita Sanchez for the program, “Hello, Puddles!” This family friendly program will be conducted from the Enders House on Schoharie Street in Fort Hunter, near the Visitor Center.

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Sunday, Sunday, June 26, 2022

    Information from The National Weather Service, some would say "The Horses Mouth"

    Today and tonight.
    Isolated to scattered non severe thunderstorms are possible late
    this afternoon through tonight ahead of a cold front. Some locally
    heavy downpours are possible with the thunderstorms which may cause
    ponding of water on roadways and poor drainage flooding of low lying
    areas.
    Patchy fog before 8am. Otherwise, mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 90. Light and variable wind becoming south 6 to 11 mph in the morning.
    Tonight
    A chance of showers and thunderstorms, then showers and possibly a thunderstorm after 3am. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Low around 68. Southwest wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.
    Monday
    Showers and thunderstorms before noon, then a slight chance of showers between noon and 1pm. High near 76. West wind 8 to 14 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Sunday, June 26, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Inflation cutting buying power but consumers press on
    People are sometimes spending differently as inflation bites into the value of their dollars. But sales tax collections this year…
     
    Sports briefs: NYRA announces premium giveaways for 2022 Saratoga Race Course meet
    The New York Racing Association recently announced its lineup of premium giveaways for the 2022 meet at Saratoga Race Course….

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    7 min
  • Many things to talk about today

    ...did not like to ship the horses by rail

    Walking the horses to Saratoga

    By Bob Cudmore

              In the early twentieth century, thoroughbred horses owned by Amsterdam carpet mill owner Stephen Sanford were walked each summer to Saratoga from Sanford’s Hurricana Farm.

              Racing Hall of Fame trainer Hollie Hughes, who served three generations of Sanfords, recalled the annual trek in Alex M. Robb’s book, “The Sanfords of Amsterdam.”

    The trip began at the Sanford horse farm on what is now Route 30 in the town of Amsterdam.  Efforts are underway to preserve remaining buildings at the complex, originally called Hurricana Farm but later known as the Sanford Stud Farm.

              “First, we’d go up to Hagaman, a couple of miles away, and then we’d head for Top Notch, or West Galway, as it’s called,” Hughes said.  “That would be about five miles.  Then we’d go three miles straight east to Galway village.  Then we’d go to West Milton, about seven miles farther east, and there we’d stop at the old Dutch Inn and feed the horses and men.  My, those breakfasts tasted good!  By that time it would be close to daylight.  On the way over, half the horses would be under saddle with boys up.  After breakfast the saddles were put on the others which had been led by the men up to this point, and we’d walk the remaining ten miles to Saratoga, coming in by Geyser Spring.”

              In 1901, Sanford built his own stable on Nelson Avenue in Saratoga.  He had as many as 35 horses at a time.  When asked why he kept so many horses, the industrialist replied he was not in the horse raising business for “margin,” in other words for profit. 

    Author Robb, an official of the New York State Racing Commission in 1969 when he wrote his book about the Sanfords, said that Stephen Sanford started buying the property that would become Hurricana Farm in the 1870s after his doctor recommended he take up farming as a hobby to help with what may have been stomach ulcers.  And Robb said that Sanford’s sons—John and William—also encouraged their father in this enterprise because of their own interest in fast horses, especially jumpers.  William died in 1896.

              From 1903 through 1907, the Sanfords invited the people of Amsterdam to the Sanford Matinee Races at Hurricana on the Sunday closest to Fourth of July.  Trolleys ran continuously up to Market and Meadow Streets.  From there, horse drawn wagons took people to the farm.  Some automobiles went to the farm as well but were not admitted to the grounds.  There was food, drink, music and, of course, horse racing. Some 15,000 attended the event during its last year.

    Bob Cudmore "The Historians" Go Fund Me https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022

              New York State outlawed betting in 1907 and racing stopped at Saratoga.  Temporarily, the Sanfords sold most of their horses to out-of-staters and Canadians, according to Robb.

              Stephen Sanford was blind the last five years of his life.  Born in 1826, he worked with his father John and then on his own to create the Sanford carpet mills.  Stephen Sanford went to West Point, served in Congress and was a friend of Ulysses S. Grant.

    The old gentleman doted on his grandchildren, in particular his namesake, born in 1899.  He gave the boy a Shetland pony almost before the youngster could walk.  Young Stephen called the pony Laddie.  The grandfather bestowed the nickname Laddie on his grandson as well.

    Stephen Sanford died on February 13, 1913.  Six months later, racing resumed at Saratoga along with the first running of the Sanford Memorial. 

    Stephen’s 62-year old son John continued to head the carpet mills and racing stables created during his father’s lifetime.  According to Robb, John Sanford inherited $40 million at his father’s death. 

    Robb wrote, “Hollie Hughes recalls Stephen Sanford as a man with a magnetic personality, one to whom your eyes would turn instinctively, even though he was but one of a hundred men in a crowd.  Hollie describes him as tall, thin, straight as a ramrod, his chin (and the chin whiskers) carried high, his right arm across his back.  He had a dry wit.”

    Ben Kemp told Bob Cudmore in tomorrows interview that in the last twenty years

    a better light has appeared on Grants time in  office March 4, 1869 – March 4, 1877

    Called The Whiskey Ring 

    Grant's Justice Department prosecuted members of Grant's own Republican Party who were part of the Ring.

    Tomorrow, Friday, June 24, 2022-Episode 428

    Ben Kemp from Grant Cottage in Wilton N.Y., where Ulysses Grant died after completing his memoirs.  

    Saturday, June 25, 2022-From the Archives- June 14, 2019-Episode 270-Deborah Emmons-Andarawis is executive director at Historic Cherry Hill, an 18th century house museum on South Pearl Street in Albany New York.  Hear about the lives of the former residents and the gripping tale of a murder at Cherry Hill in the 1800s.

    Get a Jump Start on your fall planning for New York State History Day.
    https://www.nyshistoryday.com/jump-start-history-day.html
    If you are new to History Day or a seasoned veteran we have something to help you inspire your students and plan for the 2023 theme--Frontiers in History. 
     
    There are both in-person and virtual training sessions available. In-person events are held on the SUNY- Oneonta campus unless stated otherwise. All events are free of charge and free accommodations are available for in-person events. 
     
    Introduction to History Day
    This online session featuring our History Day Coordinator, Lindsey Marshall, provides an overview of New York State History Day, the 2023 theme, and will provide answers to your History Day questions through a Q&A session. Perfect for both first-time and seasoned History Day teachers.
    Held via Zoom - email for details. 
    Online after August 1

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Thursday, June 23, 2022

    Showers, mainly before 3pm. High near 67. Southeast wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.
    Tonight
    A chance of showers, mainly before 11pm. Patchy fog after midnight. Otherwise, mostly cloudy, with a low around 56. East wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.
    Friday
    Patchy fog before 9am. Otherwise, mostly sunny, with a high near 79. West wind 3 to 6 mph.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Thursday, June 23, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Racing Around: Fonda Speedway season reaches midway point
    The season has hit the midway point at Fonda Speedway. Really? Weren’t we just at the car show at Via…
     
    Capital Region jobless rate drops to 2.7% in May
    ALBANY — The Albany metro area in May had its second-lowest jobless rate in a third of a century 

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    Class of 2022: Mason Sarabia – Amsterdam High School
     
    Mason Sarabia VALEDICTORIAN Amsterdam High School Mason Sarabia is the valedictorian of the Class...
     
    Class of 2022: Fonda-Fultonville valedictorian has nothing but love for her community

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    14 min
  • Up or Down Hill from here

    The 2022 Historians Podcast fund drive continues for the month of June. The need, to raise $200.00 over the next nine days. New way-https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022

    The Old Way

    Bob, the check is in the mail  

    Bob Cudmore to 125 Horstman Drive, Scotia, NY 12302.

    Wednesday, June 22, 2022

    From the Archives-2018-Historians Episode 222-Jennifer DeBruin is the author of three historical novels and is working on a non-fiction-book on Loyalist espionage during the American Revolution.  Many Loyalists ended up, as did DeBruin’s ancestors, settling in Canada.  She was a speaker at the 2018 conference on the American Revolution sponsored by the Fort Plain Museum.

    Tomorrow, Thursday, June 23, 2022

    Walking the horses to Saratoga 

    “First, we’d go up to Hagaman, a couple of miles away, and then we’d head for Top Notch, or West Galway, as it’s called,” Hughes said.  “That would be about five miles...

    Friday, June 24, 2022-Episode 428-Ben Kemp from Grant Cottage in Wilton N.Y., where Ulysses Grant died after completing his memoirs.  This year is the 200th anniversary of Grant’s birth.

    Saturday, June 25, 2022-From the Archives- June 14, 2019-Episode 270-Deborah Emmons-Andarawis is executive director at Historic Cherry Hill, an 18th century house museum on South Pearl Street in Albany New York.  Hear about the lives of the former residents and the gripping tale of a murder at Cherry Hill in the 1800s.

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Wednesday, June 22, 2022

    Mostly cloudy, with a high near 71. Southeast wind 9 to 14 mph.
    Tonight
    A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 58. Southeast wind 6 to 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
    Thursday
    Showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm before 9am, then showers likely between 9am and 2pm, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm after 2pm. Cloudy, with a high near 69. Southeast wind 6 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Wednesday, June 22, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Amsterdam native killed fighting in Ukraine, State Department confirms; Second American killed in conflict
    CRANESVILLE – A 52-year-old Amsterdam native died last month while fighting in Ukraine, the U.S. Department of State confirmed Tuesday,…
     
    EDITORIAL: Pop in on pop-up and then follow up
    Amsterdam residents are invited to attend a “pop-up” event this Thursday from 5 to 8 p.m. at the Mohawk Valley…
     
    Troopers: Death of woman, 74, found dead in Ephratah home after May fire, ruled homicide
    EPHRATAH – The death of a woman who was found dead in her home after a fire there in May…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    Comptroller: Capital Region IDA tax breaks among largest in state

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    7 min
  • Old Pictures and The Park

    The 2022 Historians Podcast fund drive continues for the month of June. The need, to raise $200.00 by July 1. Two ways to transact this, On-Line https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022

    Or check, stamp and mailer thru The USPS   

    Bob Cudmore to 125 Horstman Drive, Scotia, NY 12302. Recognition in Return for the help.  

    Old pictures of Pest House being sought

    and SHERMAN’S MEMORIES

    By Bob Cudmore  

              Kaye Krutz would like to locate old pictures of a building her husband and she own on Chapman Drive in the town of Amsterdam that used to be a hotel and then was known for a short time as the Pest House.

              Today, the Krutzes live in the front of the property where Janeski’s gasoline station used to be.  The building in the rear was converted to apartments before the Krutzes bought the complex 32 years ago.  They hope to locate pictures of the property before construction of the front addition.

              Originally, the building in the rear was Hotel Thayer, built in 1897.  According to Hugh Donlon’s “Annals of a Mill Town,” the structure was converted into a temporary hospital in 1909 during a smallpox outbreak and known as the Pest House.  By 1924, the Hotel Thayer relocated to Division Street in the city of Amsterdam. 

              Krutz also has discovered a cemetery on the other side of Chapman Drive with graves of young children who died years ago in a diphtheria epidemic.

    HOLTON SEELEY

              Tony Ermie has a new page on his Caroga Lake web site (www.carogatimes.com) remembering Holton “Holt” Seeley.

    Seeley, 96, died last month.  A native of Stratford, he was three years old when his mother died, so his grandparents who lived on Seeley Road raised him.

    Seeley was state game warden in Caroga Lake for over 30 years.  "Holt" was considered one of the most knowledgeable people in the area regarding State Forest and private lands.  He was a deacon for many years at Emmanuel Baptist Church in Gloversville.  His wife Elsie survives.

    "Top of the mornin', everybody" was Seeley’s greeting when he would arrive for Coffee at Fritz’s Countryside Café in Caroga, according to Ermie.

    Ermie wrote, “When he shook your hand he would almost jerk your arm out of its socket. That at 90 plus years!”

    In conversations with Ermie, Seeley remarked, “I wish my grandmother had lived long enough to see the electric lights come in. She read the Bible to us every night by a kerosene lamp."

    Ermie said, “He talked of his faith, his love for Elsie, and his homestead. He had, at least, one Bible in each room of his home as he had difficulty walking. Wherever he was at the time he could, as he told me, ‘get fed.’" 

    SHERMAN’S MEMORIES

    A column describing the model train display at Sherman’s amusement park at Caroga Lake prompted childhood memories from Jerry Snyder of Amsterdam.  Snyder would stay with relatives in Canajoharie in the summer, sometimes going to Sherman’s where an afternoon of fun only cost a few dollars.

    Snyder wrote, “I guess my favorite ride was the whip, but only because I wasn't big enough to ride the bumper cars by myself and when I rode with my cousin he never let me steer.  In addition to the trains, I remember a bicycle race game and some kind of fortune meter, both of which cost a penny to play.”

    Snyder said the fortune meter was a test of strength, “I believe you had to squeeze a lever as hard as you could to get a series of lights to move up on it.  I remember thinking even back then that a lot of the arcade equipment looked very old.”

    Snyder collects postcards and photos and came across a 1900s-era picture of a train derailment at Railroad Street in downtown Amsterdam showing the Brunswick Hotel.  A previous column made reference to that hotel, which was known as Hotel Mitchell in the 1930s, operated then by Salvatore Morreale and Joseph Sapia.

    Tomorrow

    Wednesday, June 22, 2022

    From the Archives-2018-Historians Episode 222-Jennifer DeBruin is the author of three historical novels and is working on a non-fiction-book on Loyalist espionage during the American Revolution.  Many Loyalists ended up, as did DeBruin’s ancestors, settling in Canada.  She was a speaker at the 2018 conference on the American Revolution sponsored by the Fort Plain Museum.

    Thursday, June 23, 2022

    Walking the horses to Saratoga 

    Racing Hall of Fame trainer Hollie Hughes, who served three generations of Sanfords, recalled the annual trek in Alex M. Robb’s book, “The Sanfords of Amsterdam.”

    The trip began at the Sanford horse farm on what is now Route 30 in the town of Amsterdam. 

    Friday, June 24, 2022-Episode 428-Ben Kemp from Grant Cottage in Wilton N.Y., where Ulysses Grant died after completing his memoirs.  This year is the 200th anniversary of Grant’s birth.

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Tuesday, June 21, 2022

    A chance of showers, mainly after 11am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 71. Calm wind becoming southeast around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.
    Tonight
    Showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm before midnight, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Cloudy, with a low around 58. Calm wind becoming southeast around 6 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.
    Wednesday
    A chance of showers, with thunderstorms also possible after 1pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 74. East wind 7 to 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Tuesday, June 21, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Mayfield woman identified as person killed in early Saturday town of Johnstown crash; Two others injured
    TOWN OF JOHNSTOWN – A Mayfield woman was killed in an early Saturday crash in the town of Johnstown, Fulton…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    Sales tax revenue continues to soar for Capital Region counties
     
    ALBANY — Sales tax revenue continues to surge, with May 2022 collections nearly 21% higher than May 2021 in the Capital Region.It’s the largest monthly increase yet this year, but the year-to-date increase for the first five...
     
    Amsterdam seeking input on waterfront redevelopment plans on Thursday

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    11 min
  • With a question mark?/On the keyboard, next to the shift key

    Monday, June 20, 2022-The story behind the story podcast-What I don’t like about Amsterdam.

    and more critiques from 1946

    The good old days?

    By Bob Cudmore

       The Chamber of Commerce published a booklet of essays submitted by local people for a city improvement contest in 1946 called “What I Don’t Like About Amsterdam.”

       Few of us today actually remember 1946, but many who grew up in Amsterdam after World War II would probably regard that postwar year of 1946 as part of the good old days. 

       The carpet mills, other Amsterdam factories and businesses were still thriving.  Downtown was busy.  People enjoyed bowling, softball and other amateur sports.  The war had ended.

       Nonetheless Charles H. Schenck, Chamber Executive Secretary, said the essays submitted in the contest cited multiple complaints.

       Lack of recreational facilities was mentioned in 230 essays.  The poor condition of streets was cited in 177 entries.  There were 139 ash and garbage collection complaints.  Seventy nine people wrote Amsterdam had too many bars and deplored the sale of alcohol to minors.  Some essays called for more hotel accommodations, transportation and theatrical facilities.

       A numbering system enabled the Chamber judges to award cash prizes anonymously to individuals whose essays were deemed the best among the 850 entries.  The judges were also anonymous.

       “We are quick to criticize those who make an honest effort to do something,” wrote the first prize winner, who was awarded $40.

       Forty dollars in 1946 would translate into over $500 today because of inflation, making it a rather substantial prize.

       The winning writer continued, “Misguided leadership has done a lot to put nationalism above civic responsibility and has tended to build up group interest with selfish motives.  We are all Americans and we should work together.”

       The second place essay was awarded $20 and called for Sunday evening services in the churches and an end to competition among local veterans groups.  The writer suggested city employees only get 10 days in sick leave each year, that the city buy sidewalk snow plows and that the proposed athletic field near the Lynch School be designated a World War II memorial.

       The Recorder announced the conclusion of the contest on March 26, “The project to secure a self-portrait of Amsterdam by her own residents was started about one month ago when blanks were distributed through the public schools and mercantile establishments of the city.

       “In expression of approximately 100 words, men, women and children were invited to say what they think about the city and its weak points." 

       The third place finisher, who was awarded $10, suggested a waste disposal system so that sewage would no longer be dumped into the Mohawk River.  The writer also called for beautification of the riverfront.

       Here are more critiques from 1946:

       “I don’t like the taste of city water. It has too much chlorine in it.  They admit the water looks bad and tastes bad but say it’s harmless.  It should be—the way it’s been drugged.”

       “Amsterdam should have a curfew law for children up to 16 years, and it should be enforced, even if it means bringing parents into court.”

       “The streets are a hodge-podge of houses, dinky little stores (often empty), gas stations, vacant lots (used as dumping grounds) and unoccupied buildings with broken windows.”

       “The characters that clutter up the streets in front of some of the downtown cigar stores are no ad for the police department.”

       “Amsterdam needs a sort of night club just for us kids, with special attractions by kids who can sing, dance, play an instrument or perform.”

       And a final complaint from over 75 years ago, “Have another contest entitled ‘What I do like about Amsterdam’ and limit the answers to one word.  Mine would be ‘Nothing!’”   

    Tomorrow, Tuesday, June 21, 2022- From the Archives of the Daily Gazette-Pest house memories

    Kaye Krutz would like to locate old pictures of a building her husband and she own on Chapman Drive in the town of Amsterdam that used to be a hotel and then was known for a short time as the Pest House.

    Wednesday, June 22, 2022-From the Archives-2018-Historians Episode 222-Jennifer DeBruin is the author of three historical novels and is working on a non-fiction-book on Loyalist espionage during the American Revolution.  Many Loyalists ended up, as did DeBruin’s ancestors, settling in Canada.  She was a speaker at the 2018 conference on the American Revolution sponsored by the Fort Plain Museum.

    Thursday, June 23, 2022- From the Archives of the Daily Gazette- Walking the horses to Saratoga 

    Friday, June 24, 2022-Episode 428-Ben Kemp from Grant Cottage in Wilton N.Y., where Ulysses Grant died after completing his memoirs.  This year is the 200th anniversary of Grant’s birth.

    The Preservation League of New York State will host “Preservation Roundtable: Accidental Preservationists,” a virtual program about how to fix up a historic house.

    Zoom

    Tuesday, June 21, 2022

    https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZEudu6qrTkiE91iCKP28vaQ5ZHcwA39-z0p

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Monday, June 20, 2022

    Sunny, with a high near 76. West wind 6 to 8 mph.
    Tonight
    Partly cloudy, with a low around 49. West wind 5 to 7 mph becoming calm in the evening.
    Tuesday
    Scattered showers, mainly after 9am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 72. Calm wind becoming southeast around 6 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Monday, June 20, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Former police station nominated for historic list
    The former Schenectady Police Department at 301 Clinton St. is one of 23 properties nominated by Gov. Kathy Hochul on…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    Red-hot Mohawks win three games over weekend, including 5-inning no hitter
     
    The Amsterdam Mohawks’ incredible start to the Perfect Game Collegiate Baseball League continued...

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    7 min
  • New week starts on Sunday or Monday

    The good old days?

    By Bob Cudmore, Focus on History 

       The Chamber of Commerce published a booklet of essays submitted by local people for a city improvement contest in 1946 called “What I Don’t Like About Amsterdam.”

       Few of us today actually remember 1946, but many who grew up in Amsterdam after World War II would probably regard that postwar year of 1946 as part of the good old days. 

       The carpet mills, other Amsterdam factories and businesses were still thriving.  Downtown was busy.  People enjoyed bowling, softball and other amateur sports.  The war had ended.

       Nonetheless Charles H. Schenck, Chamber Executive Secretary, said the essays submitted in the contest cited multiple complaints.

       Lack of recreational facilities was mentioned in 230 essays.  The poor condition of streets was cited in 177 entries.  There were 139 ash and garbage collection complaints.  Seventy nine people wrote Amsterdam had too many bars and deplored the sale of alcohol to minors.  Some essays called for more hotel accommodations, transportation and theatrical facilities.

       A numbering system enabled the Chamber judges to award cash prizes anonymously to individuals whose essays were deemed the best among the 850 entries.  The judges were also anonymous.

       “We are quick to criticize those who make an honest effort to do something,” wrote the first prize winner, who was awarded $40.

       Forty dollars in 1946 would translate into over $500 today because of inflation, making it a rather substantial prize.

       The winning writer continued, “Misguided leadership has done a lot to put nationalism above civic responsibility and has tended to build up group interest with selfish motives.  We are all Americans and we should work together.”

       The second place essay was awarded $20 and called for Sunday evening services in the churches and an end to competition among local veterans groups.  The writer suggested city employees only get 10 days in sick leave each year, that the city buy sidewalk snow plows and that the proposed athletic field near the Lynch School be designated a World War II memorial.

       The Recorder announced the conclusion of the contest on March 26, “The project to secure a self-portrait of Amsterdam by her own residents was started about one month ago when blanks were distributed through the public schools and mercantile establishments of the city.

       “In expression of approximately 100 words, men, women and children were invited to say what they think about the city and its weak points." 

       The third place finisher, who was awarded $10, suggested a waste disposal system so that sewage would no longer be dumped into the Mohawk River.  The writer also called for beautification of the riverfront.

    Tomorrow, Monday, June 20, 2022-The story behind the story podcast-What I don’t like about Amsterdam.

       Here are more critiques from 1946:

       “I don’t like the taste of city water. It has too much chlorine in it.  They admit the water looks bad and tastes bad but say it’s harmless.  It should be—the way it’s been drugged.”

       “Amsterdam should have a curfew law for children up to 16 years, and it should be enforced, even if it means bringing parents into court.”

       “The streets are a hodge-podge of houses, dinky little stores (often empty), gas stations, vacant lots (used as dumping grounds) and unoccupied buildings with broken windows.”

       “The characters that clutter up the streets in front of some of the downtown cigar stores are no ad for the police department.”

       “Amsterdam needs a sort of night club just for us kids, with special attractions by kids who can sing, dance, play an instrument or perform.”

       And a final complaint from over 75 years ago, “Have another contest entitled ‘What I do like about Amsterdam’ and limit the answers to one word.  Mine would be ‘Nothing!’” 

    Pest House, what does that mean!  

    Tuesday, June 21, 2022- From the Archives of the Daily Gazette-Pest house memories

    Wednesday, June 22, 2022-From the Archives-2018-Historians Episode 222-Jennifer DeBruin is the author of three historical novels and is working on a non-fiction-book on Loyalist espionage during the American Revolution.  Many Loyalists ended up, as did DeBruin’s ancestors, settling in Canada.  She was a speaker at the 2018 conference on the American Revolution sponsored by the Fort Plain Museum.

    Thursday, June 23, 2022- From the Archives of the Daily Gazette- Walking the horses to Saratoga 

    Friday, June 24, 2022-Episode 428-Ben Kemp from Grant Cottage in Wilton N.Y., where Ulysses Grant died after completing his memoirs.  This year is the 200th anniversary of Grant’s birth.

    Mohawk Valley Weather, Sunday, June 19, 2022

    Sunny, with a high near 68. Northwest wind 9 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph.
    Tonight
    Mostly clear, with a low around 46. West wind 5 to 8 mph.
    Monday
    Sunny, with a high near 77. West wind 6 to 10 mph.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Saturday, June 18, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Meet the ‘Eagle Man,’ founder of the Schoharie County Eagle Trail
    Bill Combs Jr. sees bald eagles where others see only trees or sky or banks of clouds. He’s driving on…
     
    22nd Juneteenth Celebration raises awareness
    SCHENECTADY — As dark, foreboding clouds dominated the sky above Central Park Saturday, Louis King III laid out his brightly…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder

    https://www.recordernews.com/

    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

    https://www.leaderherald.com/

    11 min
  • An earful on the Paper-Paper/Above the Fold

    Current Historians Go Fund Me $2950.00 

    $6000 the objective. Today and tomorrow looking to push over 50%.

    The U.S. Mail, a check, a little more work, but lots of readers like it that way.  

    Bob Cudmore to 125 Horstman Drive, Scotia, NY 12302.

    On-Line, easy, just click

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-historians-podcast-2022  

    One way or ta'other, Thank You

    Saturday, June 18, 2022-From the Archives-Episode 78, September 20. 2015-Dennis Webster has written “Old Main: New York State Lunatic Asylum in Utica, N.Y.” 

    Tomorrow, Sunday, June 19, 2022-Focus on History-What don’t you like about Amsterdam?

    The Chamber of Commerce published a booklet of essays submitted by local people for a city improvement contest in 1946 called “What I Don’t Like About Amsterdam.”

       Few of us today actually remember 1946, but many who grew up in Amsterdam after World War II...

    Episode 427

    Journalist David Levine is author of “The Hudson Valley: The First 250 Million Years.”  His book explains how Hudson New York for a time was part of the whaling industry.  He also includes stories about Alexander Hamilton, the Mohicans and slavery in the time of Dutch colonial rule.

    Grant Cottage Wilton, New York

    Free Family Fun Day

    https://www.grantcottage.org/

    Today, Saturday, June 18, 2022

    Impoverished by a Ponzi-style swindle and dying of throat cancer, Ulysses S. Grant moved to the Cottage on June 16, 1885. With the love and support of his family, his publisher Mark Twain and the nation at large, he completed Personal Memoirs of U.S. Grant only days before his death on July 23, 1885. The publication of this two-volume work ensured his family’s financial security and gave the world one of the most critically acclaimed memoirs by a U.S. president or historic military figure.

    ...about a week from now

    Friday, June 24, 2022

    Episode 428-Ben Kemp from Grant Cottage in Wilton N.Y., where Ulysses Grant died after completing his memoirs.

    The Rome Historical Society

    https://romehistoricalsociety.org/

    In-person event

    Time:1PM

    -has invited local veterans and retirees of the former Griffiss Air Force Base to a special viewing of RHS’ Griffiss Air Force Base photograph collection today, Saturday, June 18, 2022

    Mohawk Valley Weekend Weather, Saturday, June 18, 2022

    Mostly cloudy, with a high near 62. Northwest wind 14 to 18 mph.
    Tonight
    Partly cloudy, with a low around 46. Northwest wind 9 to 15 mph.
    Juneteenth
    Sunny, with a high near 70. Northwest wind 13 to 17 mph.
     
    Mohawk Valley News Headlines, Saturday, June 18, 2022
     
    Daily Gazette
     
    Fulton County Baseball & Sports Hall of Fame inductions Saturday
    GLOVERSVILLE — For the first time since 2019, the Fulton County Baseball & Sports Hall of Fame will host an…
     
    $3.6M Parkhurst Field project set to break ground
    GLOVERSVILLE – The Parkhurst Field Foundation will conduct the ceremonial groundbreaking for the $1.4 million Phase 1 construction of its…

    https://dailygazette.com/

     
    Amsterdam Recorder
     
    NYPA chooses Amsterdam students’ designs to promote EV use
     
    AMSTERDAM — A pair of environmentally conscious sophomores at Amsterdam High School designed...

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    Leader Herald

    FULTON COUNTY, JOHNSTOWN, LOCAL NEWS, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE GLOVERSVILLE LEADER HERALD

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    12 min

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The Historians is a weekly audio interview podcast that features authors and other guests who discuss the rich heritage of the Mohawk Valley NY region and the nation.